From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4C0CDDAD; Fri, 8 Aug 2025 03:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=140.211.166.183 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754624001; cv=none; b=A8G3I0vzwRbJvWbyXtmZ/IM8JmpV3jktTsQ05SFwYRzlsjEhdNwcaryjJtrcF+7sXx8eSNrkScYtpjTfT4xfM4gkCjueQx4ZA1ncoh/CcvQi5dyh4F0nGJdO/se13sAJw/292Y5Yu8rLQIHCYNcohlVG8cWuVkX3+j29d5jmz9k= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754624001; c=relaxed/simple; bh=vF8pT6+G+uxqekVGBiVYrOEFy6YYP30BUiS+ENg30j4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=bPCztNRohZJfu3W2B5n1r8/d2K9HxqGx0U8zyKy1Iig1BSkoQnaS8vAh3+KbmRTLBHKLBBk7d2PLAwBMJ8+taMD6mcmvcz/ypyrdEu2YjuXUUAmXwX4ig62WXVapYnCQRAPx3+lqgxhadplXIAXpOUchkdtxtrYyrT8c+5FbqVM= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gentoo.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gentoo.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=140.211.166.183 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gentoo.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gentoo.org Received: from mop.sam.mop (unknown [82.8.138.118]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange secp256r1 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: sam) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0DB3C340DC4; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 03:33:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Sam James To: arnaldo.melo@gmail.com Cc: alan.maguire@oracle.com,alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com,andrii@kernel.org,bpf@vger.kernel.org,dwarves@vger.kernel.org,jolsa@kernel.org,jose.marchesi@oracle.com,kcarcia@redhat.com,namhyung@kernel.org,nick.alcock@oracle.com,williams@redhat.com,yonghong.song@linux.dev Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] BTF archive with unmodified pahole+toolchain In-Reply-To: <7F061596-C814-42DA-AD6A-F766B21A188A@gmail.com> Organization: Gentoo User-Agent: mu4e 1.12.12; emacs 31.0.50 Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 04:33:14 +0100 Message-ID: <87a54azdvp.fsf@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: dwarves@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain FWIW, as a source-based distro, we'd love to have BTF-only be quite cheap, because right now, having DWARF makes it challenging for us to enable it by default as users build on a range of different hardware and the increased size of the unstripped vmlinux binary plus build-time requirements doesn't make it worth it. (Not every distro is building once and shipping to many and has the luxury of stripping out components ;)) Thanks for working on this.