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From: Eryu Guan <guaneryu@gmail.com>
To: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
Cc: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, fstests@vger.kernel.org,
	amir73il@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/3] fstests: generic: Check the fs after each FUA writes
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 16:19:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180316081952.GQ30836@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90382d48-0f21-d758-3896-467d8616d74b@gmx.com>

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 01:17:07PM +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2018年03月16日 12:01, Eryu Guan wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 05:02:30PM +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> >> Basic test case which triggers fsstress with dm-log-writes, and then
> >> check the fs after each FUA writes.
> >> With needed infrastructure and special handlers for journal based fs.
> > 
> > It's not clear to me why the existing infrastructure is not sufficient
> > for the test. It'd be great if you could provide more information and/or
> > background in commit log.
> 
> The main problem of current infrastructure is we don't have the
> following things:
> 
> 1) Way to take full advantage of dm-log-writes
>    The main thing is, we don't have test cases to check each FUA (this
>    patch) and flush (later patch after clearing all the RFC comments).
> 
>    We have some dm-flakey test cases to emulate power loss, but they are
>    mostly for fsync.
>    Here we are not only testing fsync, but also every superblock update.
>    Which should be a super set of dm-flakey tests.
> 
> 2) Workaround for journal replay
>    In fact, if we only test btrfs, we don't even need such complicated
>    work, just 'replay-log --fsck "btrfs check" --check fua' will be
>    enough. As btrfs check doesn't report dirty journal (log tree) as
>    problem.
>    But for journal based fses, their fsck all report dirty journal as
>    error, which needs current snapshot works to replay them before
>    running fsck.

And replay-to-fua doesn't guarantee a consistent filesystem state,
that's why we need to mount/umount the target device to replay the
filesystem journal, and to avoid replaying already-replayed-log over and
over again, we create a snapshot of the target device and mount cycle &
fsck the snapshot, right?

I'm wondering if the overhead of repeatly create & destroy snapshots is
larger than replaying log from start. Maybe snapshots take more time?

> 
> I would add them in next version if there is no extra comment on this.
> 
> > 
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
> >> ---
> >> In my test, xfs and btrfs survives while ext4 would report error during fsck.
> >>
> >> My current biggest concern is, we abuse $TEST_DEV and mkfs on it all by
> >> ourselves. Not sure if it's allowed.
> > 
> > As Amir already replied, that's not allowed, any destructive operations
> > should be done on $SCRATCH_DEV.
> 
> Yep, I'm looking for similar case who uses $SCRATCH_DEV as LVM pv do get
> extra device.
> 
> Or can we reuse the scratch_dev_pool even for ext4/xfs?

I think so, IMO pool devices are not limited to btrfs. But I think we
could use a loop device reside on $TEST_DIR? Or if snapshots take longer
time, then we don't need this extra device at all :)

I have some other comments, will reply to the RFC patch in another
email.

Thanks,
Eryu

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-16  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-14  9:02 [PATCH 1/3] fstests: log-writes: Add support to output human readable flags Qu Wenruo
2018-03-14  9:02 ` [PATCH 2/3] fstests: log-writes: Add support for METADATA flag Qu Wenruo
2018-03-14 10:06   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-14  9:02 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] fstests: generic: Check the fs after each FUA writes Qu Wenruo
2018-03-14 10:27   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-14 10:33     ` Qu Wenruo
2018-03-16  4:01   ` Eryu Guan
2018-03-16  5:17     ` Qu Wenruo
2018-03-16  8:19       ` Eryu Guan [this message]
2018-03-16  8:29         ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-16  8:44         ` Qu Wenruo
2018-03-16  8:33   ` Eryu Guan
2018-03-16  8:50     ` Qu Wenruo
2018-03-14 10:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] fstests: log-writes: Add support to output human readable flags Amir Goldstein

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