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From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	brauner@kernel.org, miklos@szeredi.hu, djwong@kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, gfs2@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/16] iomap: move read/readahead logic out of CONFIG_BLOCK guard
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 08:06:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6609e444-5210-42aa-b655-8ed8309aae75@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnrk1b2_XGfMuK-UAej31TtCAAg5Aq8PFS_36yyGg8NerA97g@mail.gmail.com>



On 2025/9/12 03:45, Joanne Koong wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 8:29 AM Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:

...

>> ```
>>
>> But if FUSE or some other fs later needs to request L2P information
>> in their .iomap_begin() and need to send L2P requests to userspace
>> daemon to confirm where to get the physical data (maybe somewhat
>> like Darrick's work but I don't have extra time to dig into that
>> either) rather than just something totally bypass iomap-L2P logic
>> as above, then I'm not sure the current `iomap_iter->private` is
>> quite seperate to `struct iomap_read_folio_ctx->private`, it seems
> 
> If in the future this case arises, the L2P mapping info is accessible
> by the read callback in the current design. `.read_folio_range()`
> passes the iomap iter to the filesystem and they can access
> iter->private to get the L2P mapping data they need.

The question is what exposes to `iter->private` then, take
an example:

```
struct file *file;
```

your .read_folio_range() needs `file->private_data` to get
`struct fuse_file` so `file` is kept into
`struct iomap_read_folio_ctx`.

If `file->private_data` will be used for `.iomap_begin()`
as well, what's your proposal then?

Duplicate the same `file` pointer in both
`struct iomap_read_folio_ctx` and `iter->private` context?


> 
>> both needs fs-specific extra contexts for the same I/O flow.
>>
>> I think the reason why `struct iomap_read_folio_ctx->private` is
>> introduced is basically previous iomap filesystems are all
>> bio-based, and they shares `bio` concept in common but
>> `iter->private` was not designed for this usage.
>>
>> But fuse `struct iomap_read_folio_ctx` and
>> `struct fuse_fill_read_data` are too FUSE-specific, I cannot
>> see it could be shared by other filesystems in the near future,
>> which is much like a single-filesystem specific concept, and
>> unlike to `bio` at all.
> 
> Currently fuse is the only non-block-based filesystem using iomap but
> I don't see why there wouldn't be more in the future. For example,
> while looking at some of the netfs code, a lot of the core
> functionality looks the same between that and iomap and I think it
> might be a good idea to have netfs in the future use iomap's interface
> so that it can get the large folio dirty/uptodate tracking stuff and
> any other large folio stuff like more granular writeback stats
> accounting for free.

I think you need to ask David on this idea, I've told him to
switch fscache to use iomap in 2022 before netfs is fully out [1],
but I don't see it will happen.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/YfivxC9S52FlyKoL@B-P7TQMD6M-0146/

Thanks,
Gao Xiang

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-12  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-08 18:51 [PATCH v2 00/16] fuse: use iomap for buffered reads + readahead Joanne Koong
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] iomap: move async bio read logic into helper function Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-12 16:01     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] iomap: move read/readahead bio submission " Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] iomap: rename cur_folio_in_bio to folio_owned Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] iomap: store read/readahead bio generically Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-12 16:10     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] iomap: propagate iomap_read_folio() error to caller Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-12 16:28     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-15 16:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] iomap: iterate over entire folio in iomap_readpage_iter() Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] iomap: rename iomap_readpage_iter() to iomap_read_folio_iter() Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] iomap: rename iomap_readpage_ctx struct to iomap_read_folio_ctx Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] iomap: add public start/finish folio read helpers Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] iomap: make iomap_read_folio_ctx->folio_owned internal Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] iomap: add caller-provided callbacks for read and readahead Joanne Koong
2025-09-09  0:14   ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-09  0:40     ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-09 15:24     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-09 23:21       ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-10 17:41         ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:19           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-11 11:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-12 17:36     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] iomap: add bias for async read requests Joanne Koong
2025-09-11 11:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-12 17:30     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-15 16:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-16 19:14       ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-19 15:04         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-19 17:58           ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] iomap: move read/readahead logic out of CONFIG_BLOCK guard Joanne Koong
2025-09-09  2:14   ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-09 15:33     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-10  4:59       ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-11 11:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-11 12:29           ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-11 19:45             ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-12  0:06               ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2025-09-12  1:09                 ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-12  1:10                   ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-12 19:56                     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-12 20:09                       ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-12 23:35                         ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-12 23:20                       ` Gao Xiang
2025-09-11 11:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-16 23:23     ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] fuse: use iomap for read_folio Joanne Koong
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] fuse: use iomap for readahead Joanne Koong
2025-09-08 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] fuse: remove fc->blkbits workaround for partial writes Joanne Koong

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