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See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 07:45:35AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: > This sounds like you are recommending that we give in to bullying. I find your suggestion that anything you disagree with is bullying extremely offensive. If you have valid reasons for naming something after the user instead of explaining the semantics, please explain that. If you think NFS actually explains the semantics pretty well, please explain that too, especially in forms that can be put into documentation, including for the user ABI.