From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from secure.elehost.com (secure.elehost.com [185.209.179.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD91F1C3F0C for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2025 23:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=185.209.179.11 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1758410306; cv=none; b=KnFkDRoFFxTDqr1xUo01aJATHwQaIZnuRfpApM9YvAwgp0p/qPFXJRMvP7+As6xLTKDoeYTx/ZsNO64lXpvsfi/2DYk0NS/TOlfxRq469gEB245xiXfiEIYl1X0GI7E/fOyfUeAWUefhYoKIV+UW+UhqeFC8r7sdWkQIzchRgok= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1758410306; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Jdg39FkT+gM0JGoUyLjgBg2DyMQQOzSLE8+nr8ApMd0=; h=From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H8zAcLX7nsqAuyUDWJlwOLzuWq1o+wYOzv/qRU5HkYNRF6UXpV6AZ6S+T/RFdU0Vo/j6VqRSNMVQMrPkXqapDlHFWaj7NL+dM/AVHCgwgAILtdeyAIMLMafBESK58HTvl1bWH2ToE0ZwsM0aFNM23BvSiMIS16DX9uLtT/924FU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=nexbridge.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=nexbridge.com; arc=none smtp.client-ip=185.209.179.11 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=nexbridge.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=nexbridge.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at secure.elehost.com Received: from Mazikeen (pool-99-228-67-183.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.228.67.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by secure.elehost.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-22ubuntu3) with ESMTPSA id 58KNHtKN1586634 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 20 Sep 2025 23:17:56 GMT Reply-To: From: To: "'Ezekiel Newren'" Cc: , <20250904-b4-pks-rust-breaking-change-v1-0-3af1d25e0be9@pks.im>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , References: <8799E6DB-FC85-4F71-A6C1-363D1AC8ED06@macos-powerpc.org> <000001dc2a5d$ea10ffe0$be32ffa0$@nexbridge.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [PATCH RFC 0/3] Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatorty Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2025 19:17:50 -0400 Organization: Nexbridge Inc. Message-ID: <002001dc2a84$cda40380$68ec0a80$@nexbridge.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQLgmUmHR/cGrsIL/oCQ2NDpPqhQsAJqIl+QATT20payds6qoA== Content-Language: en-ca X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250920-8, 9/20/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On September 20, 2025 3:01 PM, Ezekiel Newren wrote: >On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 12:39=E2=80=AFPM = wrote: >> To clarify, gcc is not available on all platforms. The overlap where >> gcc is supported and Rust is support is likely high, but more, where >> gcc is not supported then it is highly unlikely that Rust is >> supported. mrustc is a difficult more that requires gcc even if that >> is not clearly stated - it does not build with c17, for example. This >> double requirement is making the probability of being able to = continue >> to support git even less for me on NonStop. My team is working hard = to >> push Rust availability and we realize that gccrs is an easier path, >> but those two are currently outside of our control because of = complexities in the >loader on NonStop. > >Is there a C compiler that works on NonStop and Linux? I ask because = I'm >wondering if code from gccrs could help with augmenting that compiler. = >From what >I understand gccrs is written in C++17, but Rust's native approach uses = mrustc to >bootstrap, and then the rest of the Rust compiler is written in Rust. I = don't have >$500,000 to spare for testing on real NonStop hardware, but if there = was a C >compiler that worked on NonStop and Linux then there'd at least be the = possibility >of people trying to make Rust work with it. All I have is a C++17 compiler. gcc -std=3Dc17 might work for = compatibility on Linux but none of the gcc extensions work.