From: <rsbecker@nexbridge.com>
To: "'Junio C Hamano'" <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [Test Breakage 2.46.0-rc0] Test t0021.35 fails on NonStop
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 13:29:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <003301dad613$62b40aa0$281c1fe0$@nexbridge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqttgr9aeb.fsf@gitster.g>
On Sunday, July 14, 2024 1:00 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
><rsbecker@nexbridge.com> writes:
>
>> This looks like a different between ksh and bash. Under bash, the test
>> works. I can live with that but will have to force bash to be used as
>> the shebang #!/bin/sh defaults to ksh on this box.
>
>It turns out that the version of ksh I used in my description does not seem
to grok
>"local" at all. I vaguely recall that we've written off various hobbist
>reimplementation of ksh as unusable enough, but this one is ksh93 direct
from
>AT&T Research.
>
>I guess when we said "as long as we limit our use to a simple 'this
variable has
>visibility limited to the function and its children'
>and nothing else, it is portable enough across practically everybody we
care about",
>we have written off the real ksh, too.
>
>In the meantime, we may want to document this in a more prominent way.
>Perhaps like so:
>
>-------- >8 --------------- >8 --------------- >8 --------
>Subject: doc: guide to use of "local" shell language construct
>
>The scripted Porcelain commands do not allow use of "local" because it is
not
>universally supported, but we use it liberally in our test scripts, which
means some
>POSIX compliant shells (like "ksh93") can not be used to run our tests.
>
>Document the status quo, and hint that we might want to change the
situation in
>the fiture.
>
>Signed-off-by: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
>---
> Documentation/CodingGuidelines | 4 +++-
> t/README | 8 ++++++++
> 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
>diff --git c/Documentation/CodingGuidelines
w/Documentation/CodingGuidelines
>index 1d92b2da03..68b7210f48 100644
>--- c/Documentation/CodingGuidelines
>+++ w/Documentation/CodingGuidelines
>@@ -186,7 +186,9 @@ For shell scripts specifically (not exhaustive):
> - Even though "local" is not part of POSIX, we make heavy use of it
> in our test suite. We do not use it in scripted Porcelains, and
> hopefully nobody starts using "local" before they are reimplemented
>- in C ;-)
>+ in C ;-) Notably, ksh (not just reimplementations but the real one
>+ from AT&T Research) does not support "local" and cannot be used,
>+ which we might want to reconsider.
>
> - Some versions of shell do not understand "export variable=value",
> so we write "variable=value" and then "export variable" on two diff
--git
>c/t/README w/t/README index d9e0e07506..1d39d8cfd5 100644
>--- c/t/README
>+++ w/t/README
>@@ -850,6 +850,14 @@ And here are the "don'ts:"
> but the best indication is to just run the tests with prove(1),
> it'll complain if anything is amiss.
>
>+ - Don't overuse "local"
>+
>+ Because strictly POSIX-compliant shells do not have to support
>+ "local", we avoid using it in our scripted Porcelain scripts, but
>+ we have allowed use of "local" in test scripts. We may want to
>+ reconsider this and rewrite our tests to also run on shells like
>+ ksh93. Do not add new use of "local" unnecessarily.
>+
>
> Skipping tests
> --------------
Thanks. I approve. I'm currently working on trying to get the test suite to
run under bash. It looks like TEST_SHELL_PATH is not propagated to the inner
make -C test. My current approach is to run the inner make without the outer
make. Otherwise I am forced to use ksh, which is known not to work. Will
advice when this runs - I have to rebuild, and that takes about an hour.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-14 17:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-13 16:38 [Test Breakage 2.46.0-rc0] Test t0021.35 fails on NonStop rsbecker
2024-07-14 2:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-14 13:29 ` rsbecker
2024-07-14 17:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-14 17:29 ` rsbecker [this message]
2024-07-14 18:15 ` brian m. carlson
2024-07-14 18:28 ` rsbecker
2024-07-14 22:01 ` brian m. carlson
2024-07-14 22:14 ` rsbecker
2024-07-15 15:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 15:32 ` rsbecker
2024-07-15 16:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 17:39 ` rsbecker
2024-07-15 18:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 19:03 ` rsbecker
2024-07-15 15:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-14 21:27 ` Eric Sunshine
2024-07-14 13:58 ` rsbecker
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