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Subject: RE: [PATCH RFC 0/3] Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatorty
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2025 23:18:12 -0400
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On September 20, 2025 9:24 PM, Ezekiel Newren wrote:
>On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 7:15=E2=80=AFPM <rsbecker@nexbridge.com> wrote:
>> >What I meant was: Is there a compiler that can be compiled to both
>> >NonStop and Linux. What is the name of the C++17 compiler that you
>> >use on NonStop? Is there a Linux or Windows cross compiler that can =
target
>NonStop?
>>
>> We have c99, c11, c17. The only Windows cross compiler is c99, but
>> that requires a license from HPE that I cannot provide. There are not
>> non-commercial compilers available that can be used to cross compile.
>> Also, standard configure processing does not work on Windows for =
NonStop.
>
>If C/C++ can be cross compiled from Windows to a NonStop target, then =
why does
>Git need to run on NonStop itself? Why couldn't you use Git on Windows =
and then
>copy the compiled executables to your NonStop targets?

This is a much longer discussion. Windows is simply not a trusted =
platform. NonStop
is. Building on NonStop provides a virus free/malware free container =
that passes audit
requirements for financial transactions that cannot be demonstrated on =
Windows. I
have customers who refuse all attempts at building anything on NonStop.

In addition, production control cannot be done from windows. There is =
more to
life than Dev in DevSecOps, which is the only thing Windows builds gives =
you. Unless
git runs on NonStop, production artifacts (scripts, configuration, =
deployed objects)
cannot be audited and controlled.