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From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
To: Avishay Matayev <me@avishay.dev>, git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: gitster@pobox.com
Subject: Re: Forcing git to use a pager without a tty
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 10:05:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <077d147c-c22f-6463-6545-3aa991e7868b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-0OswsrnAuCwU6U=S2i1qKkg=66U-8RHSGqD2kh9T_30Yw9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Avishay

On 22/06/2021 23:40, Avishay Matayev wrote:
> Hi there!
> 
> Fugitive[1] is a vim plugin that wraps git and many of its commands
> into the editor in a really awesome way, I won't meddle into it too
> much as you can read about it in its README, but as you understand, it
> uses git, a lot.
> 
> Some git commands use a pager, which is usually a program that needs a
> pty to function properly (`less`, for example). Fugitive can't really
> use a pty for the pager as vim runs its subprocesses without a pty.
> Therefore Fugitive just creates its own pager (which is a simple
> window in vim) and pastes the git command output there.

If I understand correctly fugitive is reading the output of the git 
command over a pipe and putting it into a vim buffer?

> The only problem left is that Fugitive can't reliably know when git
> decides to use the pager, for example `git reflog show` does raise the
> pager while `git reflog expire` does not. Fugitive currently maintains
> an (very possibly) incomplete list of commands that need a pager but
> maintaining it manually isn't ideal.

I don't understand, if as you say above there isn't a pty then git wont 
use a pager unless GIT_PAGER_IN_USE is set which Fugitive does not seem 
to, so I'm not sure what you mean by 'Fugitive can't reliably know when 
git decides to use the pager'

> I started discussing this on an issue in Fugitive's github page[2] and
> Tim Pope (the creator and maintainer of Fugitive, thank you!)
> explained that `git` doesn't use a pager if there is no pty so it's
> impossible to override its behavior.
> 
> We had some ideas how to make this feasible (as you can read on the
> thread) but for brevity's sake I'll present the best (IMO) idea:
> Essentially, at `pager.c`, don't short-circuit in `git_pager` (or
> `setup_pager`?) due to pty absence if a new environment variable is
> present, perhaps something like `GIT_PAGER_FORCE` which will override
> the `PAGER` and `GIT_PAGER` variables. This will allow Fugitive to
> apply custom logic through to pager to know if one exists and present
> the window in vim.

I note that the latest comment [1] on the github issue talks about a 
different solution that would cause all git commands to behave as if 
there was a pty present.

[1] https://github.com/tpope/vim-fugitive/issues/1772#issuecomment-866401942

Best Wishes

Phillip

> I will appreciate any written thoughts on the matter, thank you :)
> 
> P.S. I am a complete newbie in regards to mailing lists etiquette,
> pardon me if I've done anything incorrect
> P.P.S. I CC'd Junio C Hamano because he signed off on (almost?) all
> changes to `pager.c`, sorry if that was wrong of me (You probably got
> this mail twice because of a misconfiguration, oops)
> 
> 
> 1. https://github.com/tpope/vim-fugitive
> 2. https://github.com/tpope/vim-fugitive/issues/1772
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-23  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-22 22:40 Avishay Matayev
2021-06-23  1:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-23  8:25   ` Forcing git to use a pager without a tty Avishay Matayev
2021-06-25 17:42     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-26 10:28       ` Avishay Matayev
2021-06-23  8:12 ` Why empty subject? (was Re: ) Bagas Sanjaya
2021-06-23  8:21   ` Avishay Matayev
2021-06-23  9:05 ` Phillip Wood [this message]
2021-06-23  9:29   ` Forcing git to use a pager without a tty Phillip Wood
2021-06-24 20:25     ` Avishay Matayev
2021-06-24 22:10       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-26 10:26         ` Avishay Matayev
2021-06-29  6:09         ` Junio C Hamano

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