From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-13.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,INCLUDES_CR_TRAILER,INCLUDES_PATCH, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB10C433DB for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 16:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A0B22516 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 16:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726292AbgL0QGg (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:06:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.pdinc.us ([67.90.184.28]:44692 "EHLO mail2.pdinc.us" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726161AbgL0QGf (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:06:35 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 1246 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:06:35 EST Received: from lovegrove (nsa1.pdinc.us [67.90.184.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.pdinc.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0BRFj2K0030785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:45:03 -0500 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mail2.pdinc.us 0BRFj2K0030785 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pdinc.us; s=default; t=1609083903; bh=OlRuvYErm3nkzgOrE/GGR7spLa0mDgOuIzEVX7273eU=; h=Reply-To:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From; b=nvgMSKxuk9dtKJS/mcNIT1R9hvtkmvS3daJlK0tbgVDDW/K/huh3MVefg1ClIMxYz tMinenfNM2PLfFJt4Od+ESJwUbZi7qVsDVHxKfG0pQcwbUUmm0Sb+qmcq3p36Mxuaz 02TI/85NWktYHEev5TBd2BYweauZ+vJOfLaY4w6fmF+AAa++TuBa1hYj/orT4d+Q+g FVFpucSNT8IPuwhuOo1ehjqIoZla/Z3ExLKH0FShUacFFUekIFKoRGzffgaJJFQHRc Cf2u/HjT4WPEx9vSiiDtCOELT4Wg/5EXkQOtRJaRqZSrcE9reJoa+0xqxFHFvpqWxw uGninCy9y5Tuw== Reply-To: , , , , , , From: "Jason Pyeron" To: Cc: , "=?UTF-8?Q?'=C3=86var_Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0_Bjarmason'?=" , "'Christian Couder'" , "'Jeff King'" , "'Junio C Hamano '" , "'Felipe Contreras'" References: <20201223061718.102779-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20201223061718.102779-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [PATCH] CODE_OF_CONDUCT: expect tolerance, not respect Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:45:13 -0500 Message-ID: <0ecd01d6dc67$4463c620$cd2b5260$@pdinc.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQJlYoIGHzEBboNr3WAXA2P+FvptaqjuBLVQ Content-Language: en-us Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Felipe Contreras=20 > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:17 AM >=20 > A lot of people confuse respect with tolerance, but they are not the > same thing. We respect the rules and rights that are given to the members of the git = community. We tolerate the output of those same members. It does not imply that we = have to agree or even use it. Behavior, opinions, and patches are best measured by its inherent value, = quality, and utility. >=20 > This was debated when Cambridge University decided to implement a > freedom of speech policy demanding respect, which caused a huge > backlash, not just within the university. >=20 > As many argued; respect cannot be manufactured at will. If you don't > respect an idea (for example that the Earth is flat), then it doesn't > matter how hard you try; you still will not respect it. >=20 > In that sense respect is like belief; nobody can force you to believe > the Moon is made of cheese. >=20 > You can pretend to believe in something, and you can pretend to > respect something, but you really don't. Any policy that asks people = to > pretend is not a good policy. >=20 > What should be asked for is tolerance. >=20 > Tolerance simply means allowing an idea to exist, and that's what the > Git project should ask from participants within the community. >=20 > We don't need to pretend we respect other viewpoints, we just need to > tolerate them. >=20 > [1] = https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/09/cambridge-university-reject= s-proposal- > it-be-respectful-of-all-views >=20 I have been reading and following most of the posts here, at centos, and = several other mailing lists of the past few weeks. I agree with this = patch, as it is efficient, accurate, timely, and most useful. > Signed-off-by: Felipe Contreras > --- > CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >=20 > diff --git a/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md b/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md > index fc4645d5c0..3324d9f151 100644 > --- a/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md > +++ b/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md > @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ Examples of behavior that contributes to creating a = positive environment > include: >=20 > * Using welcoming and inclusive language > -* Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences > +* Being tolerant of differing viewpoints and experiences > * Gracefully accepting constructive criticism > * Focusing on what is best for the community > * Showing empathy towards other community members > -- > 2.30.0.rc1 -- Jason Pyeron | Architect PD Inc | CEO 10 w 24th St | Baltimore, MD | .mil: jason.j.pyeron.ctr@mail.mil .com: jpyeron@pdinc.us tel : 202-741-9397