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From: "Kristian Høgsberg" <krh@redhat.com>
To: Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFH] convert shortlog to use parse_options
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:47:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1197571656.28742.13.camel@hinata.boston.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1197570521.28742.0.camel@hinata.boston.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 13:28 -0500, Kristian Høgsberg wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 19:03 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 05:40:23PM +0000, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > > Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org> writes:
> > > 
> > > > In fact we have kind of the issue for every single optional argument out
> > > > there:
> > > >
> > > > $ git describe --abbrev HEAD
> > > > error: option `abbrev' expects a numerical value
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > >   *ouch*
> > > >
> > > > So I believe that with optional arguments we must change the way we do
> > > > things, and that we _must_ enforce the argument to be sticked in that
> > > > case.
> > > 
> > > I think "Must" is a bit too strong an expression.
> > > 
> > > 	git describe --abbrev 7 HEAD
> > >         git describe --abbrev HEAD
> > >         git describe --abbrev=HEAD
> > > 	git describe --abbrev=7 HEAD
> > > 	git describe --abbrev
> > > 
> > > The --abbrev parser in this case could be asked with this question: "You
> > > are on the command line.  There is a token after you.  Is it your
> > > parameter?".
> > 
> >   I thought of that, but it's really convoluted and can definitely lead
> > to very subtle issues. The number of git commands with optional
> > arguments is quite low, mostly due to legacy, I don't expect _new_
> > commands to take optional arguments. I don't really like the ambiguity
> > it creates, and in some cases you just won't be able to disambiguate at
> > all. Here it looks nice because --abbrev takes an integer argument, and
> > it's likely that no branch nor reference names will be only made of
> > digits. Though for commands taking an optional string[0] argument this is
> > way more fishy.
> 
> My 

Oops, sorry about that.  I just wanted to say we shouldn't jump through
all these hoops to make the option parser support every type of option
there ever was in the git command line ui.  A lot of these were probably
decided somewhat arbitrarily by whoever implemented the command.
Instead it's an opportunity to retroactively enforce some consistency
and predictability to the various option-styles that have been
hand-rolled over time in different git commands.

Kristian

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-13 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-13  5:52 [RFH] convert shortlog to use parse_options Jeff King
2007-12-13  9:06 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13  9:10   ` Jeff King
2007-12-13  9:35     ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 10:26       ` [PATCH 1/2] parseopt: Enforce the use of the sticked form for optional arguments Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 10:27         ` [PATCH 2/2] parseopt: Add a gitcli(5) man page Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 11:04           ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-13 13:56             ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17  7:28           ` [PATCH] (squashme) gitcli documentation fixups Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17  8:51             ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17  8:57             ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17  7:28         ` [PATCH] builtin-tag: fix fallouts from recent parsopt restriction Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17  9:07           ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 10:53             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 10:58               ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 11:21                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 12:33                   ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 19:52                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 20:31                       ` Jeff King
2007-12-17 20:42                         ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 21:01                           ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 23:07                             ` Jeff King
2007-12-17 23:14                               ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 20:42                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 20:53                           ` Jeff King
2007-12-17 21:24                             ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 21:11                       ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 11:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 11:56               ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17 11:59                 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 17:40       ` [RFH] convert shortlog to use parse_options Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13 18:03         ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 18:07           ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13 19:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13 18:28           ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-12-13 18:47             ` Kristian Høgsberg [this message]
2007-12-13 20:46               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-14  4:08               ` Jeff King
2007-12-14  5:59                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-14  8:33                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-14  8:39                   ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-14 20:34                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-15 11:03                       ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-17  7:27                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17  7:36                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-17  7:59                             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17  9:38                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-17 16:21                               ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-12-13 19:31           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13 20:53             ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-13  9:29   ` Pierre Habouzit

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