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From: "J.H." <warthog19@eaglescrag.net>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: Frank Lichtenheld <frank@lichtenheld.de>,
	Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gitweb: Support caching projects list
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1205707048.2758.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803161937.07082.jnareb@gmail.com>

On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 19:37 +0100, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, J.H. wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 12:41 +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> >> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 02:44:42PM -0700, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> >>>  
> >>> This could be much simplified with perl-cache (perl-Cache-Cache).
> >>> Unfortunately this is non-standard module, not distributed (yet?)
> >>> with Perl.
> >> 
> >> I think somebody who actually needs this can be bothered to install a
> >> CPAN perl module. This should probably not enabled by default anyway.
> > 
> > The people who need the caching are also likely those who are most
> > averse to using things that don't either come with their distribution or
> > aren't easily and readily available in something like an extras
> > repository or a very well trusted contrib repository.  I can at least
> > vouch for one large site that needs this that doesn't install things via
> > cpan for a lot of different reasons.
> 
> Actually Cache::FileCache, which is part of CacheCache distribution,
> should be available in contrib or even extras repository. I have
> installed it as perl-Cache-Cache RPM (1.05-1.fc4.rf) on my Aurox 11.1
> (which is old Fedora Core 4 based distribution), from Dries RPM
> repository (part of FreshRPM now, IIRC).

That would be fine, I don't think the larger sites would have issues
finding a copy than.

> 
> The problem is that at least according to what documentation of other,
> never CPAN modules says Cache::FileCache is slow, as it always serialize
> using Storable (Storable should be part of perl distribution).

That makes it much less interesting unfortunately.

> We can always install local copy alongside gitweb...
> 
> 
> P.S. When searching CPAN for existing modules for caching and CGI
> caching I have found Cache::Adaptive::ByLoad which does what
> caching-gitweb does, and some solutions in newer caching interfaces,
> either CHI or Cache which try to avoid thundering horde problem.

Interesting - my have to take a look at that.

> P.P.S. Does kernel.org use memcached, or some kind of web cache
> (reverse proxy cache) like Varnish or Squid?

No - doesn't buy us anything really unfortunately.  And since I'm doing
caching inside of gitweb itself having multiple layers of caching just
makes things more complicated, adds unnecessary latency to updates, etc.

- John

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-16 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-13 23:14 [PATCH] gitweb: Support caching projects list Petr Baudis
2008-03-14  0:07 ` Jay Soffian
2008-03-14  0:22   ` Petr Baudis
2008-03-14  0:27     ` Jay Soffian
2008-03-14  0:30       ` J.H.
2008-03-14 12:17         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-14  0:36     ` J.H.
2008-03-17 17:49       ` repo.or.cz renovation Petr Baudis
2008-03-17 18:11         ` Petr Baudis
2008-03-17 18:44         ` J.H.
2008-03-17 20:41           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-17 21:09           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-14 15:29   ` [PATCH] gitweb: Support caching projects list Jakub Narebski
2008-03-14 21:11     ` Jay Soffian
2008-03-14  0:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-03-14  8:35 ` Frank Lichtenheld
2008-03-14 12:14 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-17 17:40   ` Petr Baudis
2008-03-15 21:44 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-16  0:56   ` Miklos Vajna
2008-03-16 11:41   ` Frank Lichtenheld
2008-03-16 16:52     ` J.H.
2008-03-16 18:37       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-16 22:37         ` J.H. [this message]
2008-03-16 23:39           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-17 18:10   ` repo.or.cz renovated Petr Baudis
2008-03-17 19:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-03-17 19:25       ` Petr Baudis
2008-03-17 19:34     ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-17 19:54       ` Petr Baudis

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