From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Roman Shaposhnik Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:35:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1208194521.25663.12.camel@work.sfbay.sun.com> References: <20080414010412.c42dc560.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080414.013058.149905948.davem@davemloft.net> <20080414031530.2507660d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080414.034116.24468363.davem@davemloft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, w@1wt.eu, david@lang.hm, sclark46@earthlink.net, johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru, rjw@sisk.pl, tilman@imap.cc, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, lkml@rtr.ca, jesper.juhl@gmail.com, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, jeff@garzik.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, git@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org To: David Miller X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Apr 14 20:39:28 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JlTVx-0006IT-GX for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:34:49 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763040AbYDNScO (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:32:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1762209AbYDNScN (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:32:13 -0400 Received: from sca-es-mail-1.Sun.COM ([192.18.43.132]:55921 "EHLO sca-es-mail-1.sun.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1761729AbYDNScL (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:32:11 -0400 Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m3EIW7Wi001658; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JZB00201V94P400@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from rvs@sun.com) ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.146.84.200] by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JZB00JALVH81O70@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:31:56 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <20080414.034116.24468363.davem@davemloft.net> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 03:41 -0700, David Miller wrote: > I'm getting more and more sensitive to issues on this level over time, > because I realize that the fundamental issue in all human group issues > is getting people to "want" to do things. And "force", in any form, > tends to be incompatible with "want". And in particular, people will > often even shun things they "want" when it is "forced" to them. Just wanted to add my 2c by mentioning my favorite example of "virtual Tom Sawyering" as far as a tedious review process goes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth_reward_check Which is also quite cheap too -- AFAIK very few of those have ever been cashed. Thanks, Roman.