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From: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
Cc: Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>,
	"Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: add a planning document for the next CLI revamp
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:31:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1225387882.19891.9.camel@maia.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810301105350.13034@xanadu.home>

On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 12:53 -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > Seconded.
> > 
> > Having git-checkout $foo being a shorthand for git checkout -b $foo
> > origin/$foo when origin/$foo exists and $foo doesn't is definitely handy.
> 
> No.  This is only the first step towards insanity.
> 
> In many cases origin/$foo == origin/master so this can't work in that 
> case which is, after all, the common case.

I don't understand that argument at all, can you explain further?

>   Therefore I think this is 
> wrong to add magic operations which are not useful for the common case 
> and actively _hide_ how git actually works.  Not only will you have to 
> explain how git works anyway for that common origin/master case, but 
> you'll also have to explain why sometimes the magic works and sometimes 
> not.  Please keep such convenience shortcuts for your own scripts and/or 
> aliases.

It's not about magic, it's about sensible defaults.  Currently this use
case is an error, and the resultant command is very long to type, and
involves typing the branch name twice.  I end up writing things like:

  git checkout -b {,origin/}wr34251-do-something

For the user who doesn't know to use the ksh-style {} blocks this is
voodoo.  The longer form is cumbersome.

For the case where the thing you type is a resolvable reference, it
would just check it out, as now.

Sam.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-30 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-30  3:48 [PATCH] Documentation: add a planning document for the next CLI revamp Sam Vilain
2008-10-30 10:55 ` Stefan Karpinski
2008-10-31 11:38   ` Kyle Moffett
2008-10-30 13:24 ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-30 15:25   ` Julian Phillips
2008-10-31  0:34   ` Jeff King
2008-11-02 21:53   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-03 13:47     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-30 14:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-30 14:52   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-30 14:59     ` Mike Hommey
2008-10-30 15:01       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-30 16:53         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-30 17:31           ` Sam Vilain [this message]
2008-10-30 18:28             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-30 22:46               ` Yann Dirson
2008-10-30 23:28               ` Sam Vilain
2008-10-30 23:55             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-31  6:51               ` Sam Vilain
2008-10-31  7:36                 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-03  8:43                   ` Sam Vilain
2008-11-03 12:06                     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-01  0:37         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-30 14:39 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-30 14:43   ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-30 16:30     ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-30 16:43       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-30 17:44         ` Sam Vilain
2008-10-30 17:03       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-02  6:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-02 10:09         ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-30 15:02   ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-11-01 19:57     ` Elijah Newren
2008-10-30 15:20   ` Matthieu Moy
2008-10-30 17:00     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-30 17:03       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-10-30 17:17         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-30 18:06           ` Sam Vilain
2008-11-02 22:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-03  6:01           ` Sam Vilain
2008-11-01 19:42     ` Elijah Newren
2008-10-30 17:51   ` Sam Vilain
2008-10-30 23:27     ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-01 20:27     ` Elijah Newren
2008-11-02  1:06       ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-02  4:41         ` Elijah Newren
2008-11-01 19:26   ` Elijah Newren
2008-11-02 22:01   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-01 18:36 ` Elijah Newren
     [not found] <20081030002239.D453B21D14E@mail.utsl.gen.nz>
2008-10-31  0:31 ` Jeff King
2008-10-31  6:40   ` Sam Vilain
2008-10-31  8:20     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-02  4:18     ` Jeff King
2008-11-02  9:56       ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-31 16:46   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-11-02  3:42     ` Jeff King
2008-11-02  3:53   ` Jeff King
2008-11-02 22:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-03  5:59     ` Sam Vilain
2008-11-03  9:48       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-03  9:53         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-11-04  9:18       ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-11-04 18:10         ` Sam Vilain
2008-11-04 19:46           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-05  3:05             ` Jeff King
2008-11-05  6:40               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-05 22:53           ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-11-03  6:56     ` Jeff King
2008-11-03  6:59       ` Jeff King
2008-11-03  9:25     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-03 23:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-04  0:02         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-11-04  0:44           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-11-04  5:20         ` Jeff King

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