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From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
To: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, jltobler@gmail.com, chriscool@tuxfamily.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] clang-format: avoid braces on simple single-statement bodies
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:24:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12830e1d-598d-4e7d-abd6-3349800e277a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOLa=ZSb_S7X7pdFPp0r5bfNc3o95mGe5pU+rC1T_yM89NRqCw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Karthik

On 08/07/2024 21:25, Karthik Nayak wrote:
> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> 
>> Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Set the 'RemoveBracesLLVM' to 'true' which ensures that we avoid curly
>>> braces for single-statement bodies in conditional blocks.
>>
>> Hmph, two warnings in its documentation [*] sound ominous, especially
>> the second one that says:
>>
>>      Warning
>>
>>      Setting this option to true could lead to incorrect code
>>      formatting due to clang-format’s lack of complete semantic
>>      information. As such, extra care should be taken to review code
>>      changes made by this option.
>>
>> which implies it may not necessarily a good idea to add to
>> automation without telling contributors that they may get hit with a
>> false positive (or incorrect rewrite).
> 
> Agreed on this one. I'm a bit skeptical to be honest too. I think I
> should have added information about the warning in the commit too. I
> will for next round. Overall, this also contributes to the reason why I
> decided these CI jobs need to be allowed to fail.

I'm a bit confused - what does "allowed to fail" mean? We don't have any 
automated requirements on the CI passing. We don't want to train 
contributors to routinely ignore CI failures but if they don't get a 
notification that this job failed how do they know to correct the 
formatting?

>> Reading from the examples in that documentation page, it was unclear
>> how it would handle if/else if/.../else cascade where not all branches
>> are multi-statement blocks, e.g.,
>>
>> 	if (A) {
>> 		do_A_thing();
>> 	} else if (B) {
>> 		do_B_thing();
>> 	} else {
>> 		do_C_things();
>> 		do_other_things();
>> 	}
>>
>> but looking around I am getting a feeling that the tool would do the
>> right thing, i.e., to match our preference that is to use {braces}
>> around all branches, if I am not mistaken.
>>
> 
> Yup, that was my understanding and what I could see from some quick
> trials that I did too.
> 
> It would be a great win to have this though, because it is one of the
> things that always get me.

Yes, having the formatting automated would be really helpful. It is a 
shame the documentation doesn't really explain what the issue is (i.e. 
when does it generate invalid code) so we don't know how likely we are 
to be affected by it.

Best Wishes

Phillip

>>
>> [Reference]
>>
>>   * https://releases.llvm.org/16.0.0/tools/clang/docs/ClangFormatStyleOptions.html#:~:text=RemoveBracesLLVM
>>
>>> +# Remove optional braces of control statements (if, else, for, and while)
>>> +# according to the LLVM coding style
>>> +# This avoids braces on simple single-statement bodies of statements.
>>
>> "... but keeps braces if one side of if/else if/.../else cascade has
>> multi-statement body."
>>
> 
> Makes sense, will add.
> 
>>> +RemoveBracesLLVM: true
> 
> Overall I must say, I'd be okay if this patch is also dropped from this
> series.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-12 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-08  9:23 [PATCH 0/8] clang-format: add more rules and enable on CI Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 1/8] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 10:08   ` Chris Torek
2024-07-08 16:22   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 20:33     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:27   ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 2/8] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 3/8] clang-format: ensure files end with newlines Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 4/8] clang-format: replace deprecated option with 'SpacesInParens' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 5/8] clang-format: avoid braces on simple single-statement bodies Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 20:25     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-12 15:24       ` Phillip Wood [this message]
2024-07-13 12:30         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:58           ` phillip.wood123
2024-07-13 14:16             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 6/8] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 17:26     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 16:56   ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-08 17:27     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 20:53   ` Eric Sunshine
2024-07-10 13:36     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 7/8] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 17:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 21:05     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 22:52     ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 23:17       ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-09  0:56       ` brian m. carlson
2024-07-08 18:10   ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-08 21:16     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-09  0:22       ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-09  8:44         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-09 14:44           ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-10 13:38             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 8/8] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 10:18   ` Chris Torek
2024-07-08 10:35     ` Georg Pfuetzenreuter
2024-07-08 10:42       ` Chris Torek
2024-07-08 17:13         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 17:19         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 17:35   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-10 14:06     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-10 16:02       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11  8:27         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11 14:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-08 17:58   ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-10 14:12     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-08 10:06 ` [PATCH 0/8] clang-format: add more rules and enable on CI Chris Torek
2024-07-11  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 " Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] clang-format: ensure files end with newlines Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] clang-format: replace deprecated option with 'SpacesInParens' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] clang-format: avoid braces on simple single-statement bodies Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11 16:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-12  8:48       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-12 15:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-12 15:29           ` Phillip Wood
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11  8:30   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-11 14:48     ` Justin Tobler
2024-07-11 16:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-12  8:51         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-12 15:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-11 18:11   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] clang-format: add more rules and enable on CI Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 13:45   ` [PATCH v3 " Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] clang-format: ensure files end with newlines Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] clang-format: replace deprecated option with 'SpacesInParens' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 15:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 13:45     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] ci/style-check: add `RemoveBracesLLVM` to '.clang-format' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 15:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-13 16:46         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-13 23:18           ` Ramsay Jones
2024-07-15  8:10             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 14:46               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 16:07                 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 16:36                   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 19:31                     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 19:45                       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-18  8:18                         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18 14:05                           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15  9:30     ` [PATCH v4 0/8] clang-format: add more rules and enable on CI Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 1/8] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 2/8] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 3/8] clang-format: ensure files end with newlines Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 4/8] clang-format: replace deprecated option with 'SpacesInParens' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 5/8] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 6/8] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 7/8] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15  9:30       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] ci/style-check: add `RemoveBracesLLVM` to '.clang-format' Karthik Nayak
2024-07-15 17:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-15 19:33           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:15       ` [PATCH v5 0/6] : add more rules and enable on CI Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 1/6] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 2/6] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 3/6] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 4/6] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18 14:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-18 16:04             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 5/6] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18 15:00           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-19  8:33             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-19 15:03               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-22  7:22                 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18  8:16         ` [PATCH v5 6/6] ci/style-check: add `RemoveBracesLLVM` in CI job Karthik Nayak
2024-07-18 15:09         ` [PATCH v5 0/6] : add more rules and enable on CI Junio C Hamano
2024-07-23  8:21         ` [PATCH v6 0/6] clang-format: " Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 1/6] clang-format: indent preprocessor directives after hash Karthik Nayak
2024-07-24  6:50             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-07-24  8:55               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 2/6] clang-format: avoid spacing around bitfield colon Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 3/6] clang-format: formalize some of the spacing rules Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 4/6] ci: run style check on GitHub and GitLab Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 5/6] check-whitespace: detect if no base_commit is provided Karthik Nayak
2024-07-23  8:21           ` [PATCH v6 6/6] ci/style-check: add `RemoveBracesLLVM` in CI job Karthik Nayak
2025-06-19 15:16             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-19 20:25               ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-20  0:02                 ` Junio C Hamano

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