From: Will Palmer <wmpalmer@gmail.com>
To: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Bash <bash@genarts.com>, Matt Stump <mstump@goatyak.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
David Michael Barr <david.barr@cordelta.com>,
Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com>,
Tomas Carnecky <tom@dbservice.com>
Subject: Re: Converting to Git using svn-fe (Was: Speeding up the initial git-svn fetch)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:39:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1287563970.2673.12.camel@wpalmer.simply-domain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101019064210.GA14309@kytes>
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 12:12 +0530, Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> Stephen Bash writes:
...
> >
> > I have 32 SVN revs in my history that touch multiple Git commit
> > objects. The simplest example is
> > svn mv svn://svnrepo/branches/badBranchName svn://svnrepo/branches/goodBranchName
> > which creates a single SVN commit that touches two branches
> > (badBranchName will have all it's contents deleted, goodBranchName
> > will have an "empty commit" as described above). The more devious
> > version is the SVN rev where a developer checked out / (yes, I'm not
> > kidding) and proceeded to modify a single file on all branches in
> > one commit. In our case, that one SVN rev touches 23 git commit
> > objects. And while the latter is somewhat a corner case, the former
> > is common and probably needs to be dealt with appropriately (it's
> > kind of a stupid operation in Git-land, so maybe it can just be
> > squashed).
>
> Ouch! Thanks for the illustrative example- I understand now. We have
> to bend backwards to perform a one-to-one mapping. It's finally struck
> me- one-to-one mapping is nearly impossible to achieve, and I don't
> know if it makes sense to strive for it anymore. Looks like Jonathan
> got it earlier.
It's been a while since I was involved in this discussion, so maybe the
design has changed by now, but I was under the impression that there
would be one "one-to-one" mapping branch (which would never be checked
out), containing the history of /, and that the "real" git branches,
tags, etc, would be based on the trees originally referenced by the root
checkout, with git-notes (or similar) being used to track the weirdness
in mappings. How does the "multiple branches touched in a single commit"
complicate anything other than the heuristics for automatic branch
detection (which I assume nobody is at the stage of talking about yet).
I suppose we wouldn't be talking, technically, about a one-to-one
mapping in that case, as we would be turning "one" svn revision into
"many" git branches, but in the conceptual sense of "one svn repository
equals one git repository", I don't see this as being impossible, or so
difficult that it shouldn't be striven-for.
Something else which is at least semi-common in svn is to treat a folder
both as a "directory" and a "branch", which the "checking out /" example
would just be an extreme example of. Think in terms of git branches
being a "view" of the history, with some mapper sitting between each
view and "root" checkout.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-20 8:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-13 15:44 Speeding up the initial git-svn fetch Matt Stump
2010-10-13 16:02 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-13 17:47 ` Matt Stump
2010-10-13 18:18 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-14 16:22 ` Converting to Git using svn-fe (Was: Speeding up the initial git-svn fetch) Stephen Bash
2010-10-14 16:34 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-14 20:07 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-10-15 14:50 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-15 23:39 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-10-16 0:16 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-17 2:25 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-10-17 3:33 ` David Michael Barr
2010-10-18 5:17 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2010-10-18 7:31 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-18 16:38 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2010-10-18 16:46 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-10-18 16:56 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-18 17:16 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2010-10-18 17:18 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-10-18 17:28 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-18 18:10 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-10-18 18:13 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-18 18:20 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-10-18 18:25 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-18 18:35 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-10-18 19:33 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-19 3:08 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2010-10-19 0:40 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-19 1:42 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-19 6:42 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2010-10-19 13:33 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-19 14:28 ` David Michael Barr
2010-10-19 14:57 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-20 8:39 ` Will Palmer [this message]
2010-10-20 11:59 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-20 13:42 ` Will Palmer
2010-10-20 20:44 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-21 1:54 ` mrevilgnome
2010-10-21 8:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-21 13:49 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-21 9:08 ` Will Palmer
2010-10-21 14:00 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-21 18:37 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-21 21:27 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-21 22:49 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-21 23:26 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-22 10:38 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-21 15:52 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-10-21 16:16 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-10-20 14:05 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2010-10-20 14:21 ` Stephen Bash
2010-10-20 16:56 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
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