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From: David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: "Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ævar þór" <aevarb@gmail.com>,
	jeffhost@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/16] index-helper: new daemon for caching index and related stuff
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:20:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1460658054.5540.89.camel@twopensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqd1psgiuc.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 11:12 -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:05 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >  - access is slow (unless cached, but we can't be sure)
> > > > 
> > > > We could solve this (and the other problem) with mlock.
> > > 
> > > Probably you meant madvise(2)?
> > > 
> > > For something of a size comparable to the index file held by
> > > index-helper-daemon in-core, I'd expect we wouldn't page too
> > > badly.
> > 
> > I had a look at linux implementation of madvise(MADV_WILLNEED). All
> > it
> > does is force populating the entire memory region, which is good.
> > But
> > I suspect when memory is under pressure, some pages may be
> > reclaimed.
> 
> I share that suspicion.  Why is such a reclamation bad thing, though?
> 
> > index files in monster repo case can go up to a few hundred
> > megabytes,
> > chances of being reclaimed rise accordingly. But we can reconsider
> > mlock() later when/if real problems happen.
> 
> Holding onto "a few hundred megabytes" just so that occasional Git
> operations will not stall with the daemon and slowing down the
> overall work of the user by panalizing other elements in the user's
> workflow does not sound like a good trade-off to me.  Wouldn't the
> user better off by not using the daemon at that point, which would
> give the few hundred megabytes back to the system for better uses?

By running git index-helper, the user has signaled their intent about
memory usage.  It's probably reasonable to honor this intent (even if
the user might be mistaken about what the right trade-off is).

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-14 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-06 22:11 [PATCH v3 00/16] index-helper, watchman David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] read-cache.c: fix constness of verify_hdr() David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] read-cache: allow to keep mmap'd memory after reading David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] index-helper: new daemon for caching index and related stuff David Turner
2016-04-07  6:21   ` Johannes Sixt
2016-04-07 14:14     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-04-07 18:47       ` David Turner
2016-04-08 14:17         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-04-08 11:26   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-04-08 22:16     ` David Turner
2016-04-11 23:27       ` David Turner
2016-04-12  9:40         ` Duy Nguyen
2016-04-12 17:28           ` David Turner
2016-04-12 18:05             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-13  0:32               ` David Turner
2016-04-14 10:43               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-04-14 18:12                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-14 18:20                   ` David Turner [this message]
2016-04-15  0:16                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-04-15  1:31                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] index-helper: add --strict David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] daemonize(): set a flag before exiting the main process David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] index-helper: add --detach David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] read-cache: add watchman 'WAMA' extension David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] Add watchman support to reduce index refresh cost David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] index-helper: use watchman to avoid refreshing index with lstat() David Turner
2016-04-07 22:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-07 22:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-08  0:14       ` David Turner
2016-04-08  6:03         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] update-index: enable/disable watchman support David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] unpack-trees: preserve index extensions David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] index-helper: kill mode David Turner
2016-04-06 22:11 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] index-helper: don't run if already running David Turner
2016-04-06 22:12 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] index-helper: autorun mode David Turner
2016-04-06 22:12 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] index-helper: optionally automatically run David Turner
2016-04-06 22:12 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] read-cache: config for waiting for index-helper David Turner

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