From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Thomas Adam" Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] manual: Fix or remove em dashes. Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 23:02:01 +0100 Message-ID: <18071eea0710091502y3b70231dnd4270a3155af91a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071009205755.GB31317@ins.uni-bonn.de> <20071009210530.GH31317@ins.uni-bonn.de> <18071eea0710091441n717c0a99p58a9b585d15cc778@mail.gmail.com> <20071009215255.GB3146@ins.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: "Ralf Wildenhues" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Oct 10 00:02:20 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IfN9f-0007Lp-17 for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:02:19 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753406AbXJIWCJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:02:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752833AbXJIWCH (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:02:07 -0400 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.184]:47560 "EHLO fk-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751105AbXJIWCE (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:02:04 -0400 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id z23so6375fkz for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:02:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BPR8mci/L/DCqS8Y0f9KLb6xr9mT5gpglsQnurWuDBQ=; b=HiHhUydbN1T7Dzg0EvZ5EYDV67OBlKiBthAepo9wXeenfYJIXxUkYBJUZ1A59p/I+IMcaUWkkdgUv6joR3HLlK/jUlzzNZ1aLV6B455Nk1dMy5PG3SIar0t+JSQZ/hFXCncUZmo4leb9aa2kUaOWI3sp99DV7JOFwUeClN8wgPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Df9CLlUqyuyvg2AtvkgKc8Hu3DECDnoRnJoYhBK1LOFNGOsLbPo9SLVRPUjCkxjW5ldygNzFzFlS234BiEA8ofDbW3ei3mfYZlITK1cyOD0bU30YHcazK7GScLwakmYtBJLmz0FMpxVaUCgQ+PIiF6zGdMSyVac5Ar/touqasfE= Received: by 10.82.171.16 with SMTP id t16mr19968439bue.1191967321745; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.177.16 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:02:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20071009215255.GB3146@ins.uni-bonn.de> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 09/10/2007, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Hello, and sorry, this patch should be number 6/6 of course. > > * Thomas Adam wrote on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 11:41:41PM CEST: > > On 09/10/2007, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > > em dashes were used inconsistently in the manual. > > > This changes them to the way they are used in US English. > > > > I find this particular patch to be rather odd; there is nothing > > invalid in the way the em-dashes are used. > > No, not invalid, just inconsistent usage in the manual. > > > Why is it US English is somehow de facto over, say, proper English? > > :) > > Oh, that was written quoting from memory and experience. But here's a > quote to back it up, from as of now: > > | According to most American sources (e.g., The Chicago Manual of Style) > | and to some British sources (e.g., The Oxford Guide to Style), an em > | dash should always be set closed (not surrounded by spaces). But the > | practice in many parts of the English-speaking world[...] sets it > | open [...] > > No, I did not write that! ;-) Well, I don't see why it needs to change, to be honest. I use em-dashes all the time surrounded by spaces, as do many academics. The fact that may here in the UK do not use the letter z in place of s to satisfy the OSD is also of equal testament to this. -- Thomas Adam