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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Edward Thomson <ethomson@edwardthomson.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] setup: warn about un-enabled extensions
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:40:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18c65b85-2f2a-ff96-1ea7-e16befa6928f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqzh82ktgm.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On 7/14/2020 11:27 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
> 
>>> If you don't mind, I was already going to squash Junio's commit into
>>> mine (almost completely replacing mine) but I could add a small
>>> commit on top that provides the following improvement to the error
>>> message:
>>
>> I don't mind at all. I'd just like to know that v2.28.0 avoids confusing
>> users in the same was as v2.28.0-rc0 confused me.
> 
> In a nearby thread, Jonathan Nieder raised an interesting approach
> to avoid confusing users, which I think (if I am reading him
> correctly) makes sense (cf. <20200714040616.GA2208896@google.com>)
> 
> What if we accept the extensions the code before the topic in
> question that was merged in -rc0 introduced the "confusion" accepts
> even in v0?  If we see extensions other than those handpicked and
> grandfathered ones (which are presumably the ones we add later and
> support in v1 and later repository versions) in a v0 repository, we
> keep ignoring.  Also we'd loosen the overly strict code that
> prevents upgrading from v0 to v1 in the presence of any extensions
> in -rc0, so that the grandfathered ones will not prevent the
> upgrading.
> 
> The original reasoning behind the strict check was because the users
> could have used extensions.frotz for their own use with their own
> meaning, trusting that Git would simply ignore it, and an upgrade to
> later version in which Git uses extensions.frotz for a purpose that
> is unrelated to the reason why these users used would just break the
> repository.  
> 
> But the ones that were (accidentally) honored in v0 couldn't have
> been used by the users for the purposes other than how Git would use
> them anyway, so there is no point to make them prevent the upgrade
> of the repository version from v0 to v1.
> 
> At least, that is how I understood the world would look like in
> Jonathan's "different endgame".
> 
> What do you three (Dscho, Derrick and Jonathan) think?  

If "v0" includes "core.repositoryFormatVersion is unset" then I
would consider this to be a way to avoid all user pain, which is
positive.

I'd be happy to test and review a patch that accomplishes this
goal.

CC'ing Ed Thomson because this extension stuff affects other tools,
like libgit2.

Thanks,
-Stolee


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-14 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13 21:55 [PATCH] setup: warn about un-enabled extensions Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-07-13 22:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-14  0:24 ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-14 12:21   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-14 15:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-14 15:40       ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2020-07-14 20:30         ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-14 20:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 16:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 17:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 18:00           ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-15 18:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 18:40               ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-15 19:16                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-15 18:15             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 19:21               ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-15 18:20         ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16  2:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16  6:20         ` [PATCH 0/2] extensions.* fixes for 2.28 (Re: [PATCH] setup: warn about un-enabled extensions) Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16  6:24           ` [PATCH 1/2] Revert "check_repository_format_gently(): refuse extensions for old repositories" Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16 10:56             ` Jeff King
2020-07-16  6:28           ` [PATCH 2/2] repository: allow repository format upgrade with extensions Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16  7:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 11:00               ` Jeff King
2020-07-16 12:25                 ` Jeff King
2020-07-16 12:53                   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-16 16:32                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 16:53                     ` Jeff King
2020-07-16 20:27                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 16:49                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 16:56                     ` Jeff King
2020-07-16 16:10                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 22:37                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16 23:50                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-17 15:27                       ` Jeff King
2020-07-17 17:07                         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-17 15:22                     ` Jeff King
2020-07-16  8:13           ` [PATCH 0/2] extensions.* fixes for 2.28 (Re: [PATCH] setup: warn about un-enabled extensions) Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-16 12:17             ` Derrick Stolee

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