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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.52.4 (by Flathub.org) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box5922.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mad-scientist.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 160.231.220.149 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1st6TV-000c3s-09 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (llin-psh13-dsa.dsone.3ds.com) [160.231.220.149]:12025 X-Source-Auth: paul@mad-scientist.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Org: HG=bhshared;ORG=bluehost; X-Source-Cap: bWFkc2NpZTE7bWFkc2NpZTE7Ym94NTkyMi5ibHVlaG9zdC5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfEzhT1S1lFF46Ixis/tE8ojYfeO9ff1FOtmmXHfkwHY+IFfDw3LSxSwfuk5f+iV4VsNj9kkNZPM0Q2R28NjbsWHGrVeZdN/Hm9iog44J1G3JT3ueAcV5 eWperSs/g5E+fd8l4wImtQZKUpjxD7CJqZaOTUXtoVd8Gvcct02fy/H9m1pdHgn2dg1U9GIK5uPc5L73e3tr9SV0YNGyz07n4CQ= On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 09:59 -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Still I would prefer meson over autotools any day of the week. I'd > also prefer autotools over cmake, mind you. Just to point out that relying on ever-more-esoteric build tools is a recipe for frustration for those of us who want to build from source.=20 Yes, I know meson is somewhat popular and definitely has a following, but in the grand scheme of things it's still rare to find projects requiring it, especially at the base level of software. I build a lot of software and I have never once had to install it, for example. I maintain a minimalist set of tools and libraries that we compile locally from source so we can control the full toolchain. Every time a package we want to add requires some new, different build tool it's a massive annoyance. As of today everything builds with either make or cmake (mainly for Windows support). On the other hand, now that all the systems we use have "good enough" native versions of Git we have stopped building it in our environment. So in that sense it no longer matters to me directly :).