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From: lists@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller)
To: peff@peff.net (Jeff King)
Cc: jacob.keller@gmail.com (Jacob Keller),
	avarab@gmail.com (Ævar Arnfjör? Bjarmason),
	matt@mattmccutchen.net (Matt McCutchen),
	git@vger.kernel.org (git), gitster@pobox.com (Junio C Hamano)
Subject: Re: Tools that do an automatic fetch defeat "git push --force-with-lease"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 14:37:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1n4bn17.oag6uj12fkc2fM%lists@haller-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170410183120.oa5yqwvlrdzitqci@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 10:38:42AM +0200, Stefan Haller wrote:
> 
> > I think it's wrong to think about these leases as something that you
> > take before you start a rewindy operation. That's the wrong time to take
> > the lease; by that time, the remote tracking branch may already contain
> > new things that you haven't seen yet, so using that as a lease at that
> > time will overwrite those things later. You have to take the lease at a
> > time where you know that your local branch and the remote tracking
> > branch are up to date with each other, which is after pull and push. And
> > if you do that, there's no multiple-operation ambiguity to deal with at
> > all.
> 
> OK. I was assuming that you'd have just integrated before starting such
> a rebase, but I guess that doesn't have to be the case.
> 
> I agree that probably makes the multiple-operation stuff go away, which
> is nice. It does raise the question of when the integration point
> happens, and how we handle alternate paths through which commits may
> land in a local branch (e.g., if both you and upstream do a ff-merge of
> a particular branch).

Are you talking about the case where the user doesn't say git pull, but
instead says "git fetch && git merge --ff @{u}"? Just so that I
understand the concern.

> I think that would probably just end up with extra
> failures though (so erring on the side of caution). 

Yes, and I think this is a very important decision in general.


-- 
Stefan Haller
Berlin, Germany
http://www.haller-berlin.de/

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-11 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-08  2:15 Tools that do an automatic fetch defeat "git push --force-with-lease" Matt McCutchen
2017-04-08  7:24 ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-08  7:35 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08  9:29   ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 10:10     ` Jakub Narębski
2017-04-08 11:41       ` [PATCH] push: document & test --force-with-lease with multiple remotes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-09  9:55         ` Simon Ruderich
2017-04-09 11:40           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-17  3:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-19  9:22           ` [PATCH v2] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08 21:54     ` Tools that do an automatic fetch defeat "git push --force-with-lease" Jacob Keller
2017-04-08 22:13       ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 22:21         ` Jacob Keller
2017-04-09  8:38         ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-09  8:49           ` Jacob Keller
2017-04-09 11:00             ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-10  8:08               ` Jacob Keller
2017-04-10  9:58                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-10 23:33                   ` Jacob Keller
2017-04-11  8:51                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-12  9:11                       ` Stefan Haller
2017-07-06 18:56                       ` [PATCH] push: disable lazy --force-with-lease by default Junio C Hamano
2017-07-06 19:38                         ` Stefan Beller
2017-07-06 22:39                           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-06 22:42                             ` Stefan Beller
2017-07-10 22:32                             ` Stefan Beller
2017-07-07  9:24                         ` Stefan Haller
2017-07-07  9:42                           ` Jeff King
2017-07-07  9:54                           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-07-07 15:15                             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-15 10:45                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-07-17 17:28                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-07  9:39                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-11 12:37                   ` Tools that do an automatic fetch defeat "git push --force-with-lease" Stefan Haller
2017-04-11 12:37                 ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-10 18:31           ` Jeff King
2017-04-11 12:37             ` Stefan Haller [this message]
2017-04-11 12:50               ` Jeff King
2017-04-12  9:11                 ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-09  8:38       ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-09  8:46         ` Jacob Keller
2017-04-08  8:25 ` Jacob Keller
2017-04-08  9:31   ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 15:03     ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-08 22:03       ` Jeff King
2017-04-08 15:03 ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-08 16:04   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-04-08 17:28     ` Stefan Haller
2017-04-12  9:11   ` Stefan Haller

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