From: Ismail Donmez <ismail@uludag.org.tr>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Rss produced by git is not valid xml?
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:22:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511182322.37050.ismail@uludag.org.tr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0511181301320.13959@g5.osdl.org>
On Friday 18 November 2005 23:13, you wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Ismail Donmez wrote:
> > Maybe you could officially require all commit messages to be UTF-8 then
> > the problem would be just solved for future commits at least.
>
> Just think about what that would mean for a second.
>
> What do people put in commit messages? They put things like filenames, to
> indicate that they changed file so-and-so because of issue so-and-so, or
> they needed to include header file so-and-so to fix a problem.
>
> So by virtue of forcing all commit messages to be in UTF-8, you've
> suddenly forced all filesystems to do UTF-8 too.
>
> Take that one step further: you've also forced all the file _contents_
> you talk about to be in UTF-8, since the commit message might quote part
> of the file ("'xyzzy' was misspelled, it should be 'abcde'").
>
> Or alternatively, you've forced the commit message to no longer match the
> reality that it tries to explain.
>
> See the problem?
>
> And that's ignoring the fact that you've unilaterally forced probably 50%
> of asian users to use an environment that they don't normally use.
>
> Remember: it's actually pretty _easy_ for most of the western world to
> move to UTF-8, because 99% of what we do doesn't really care one whit, and
> the remaining 1% isn't usually even a huge problem (ie it's such a small
> percentage that even if you show the wrong character for it, people
> understand what it said).
These days you can just open kwrite, select encoding and voila you don't have
to change anything on the filesystem you can still use whatever $LANG you
use. We would just force them to use a working editor imho. Nothing else. And
thats not much to ask is it? Even joe(1) can edit utf-8 these days that must
tell something.
Regards,
ismail
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-18 21:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-18 16:33 Rss produced by git is not valid xml? Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 17:26 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 19:27 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 20:02 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 20:08 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 20:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 20:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 20:51 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2005-11-18 21:01 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 20:45 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 21:22 ` Ismail Donmez [this message]
2005-11-18 21:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-18 21:29 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-19 8:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-18 20:55 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 21:33 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 23:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 23:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 23:53 ` Andreas Ericsson
2005-11-19 1:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19 8:49 ` Andreas Ericsson
2005-11-19 10:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-18 23:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 23:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19 0:29 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-18 23:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-19 0:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-19 0:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19 1:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-19 10:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-20 1:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-20 3:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-20 4:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <20051127025249.GA12286@vrfy.org>
2005-11-27 3:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-27 4:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-28 0:39 ` [PATCH 2/3] mailinfo: allow -u to fall back on latin1 to utf8 conversion Junio C Hamano
2005-11-28 6:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28 9:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-27 16:18 ` Rss produced by git is not valid xml? Kay Sievers
2005-11-19 0:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-20 18:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-21 8:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-21 9:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19 3:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19 4:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
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2005-11-19 6:31 Marco Costalba
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