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From: Ismail Donmez <ismail@uludag.org.tr>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Rss produced by git is not valid xml?
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:22:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511182322.37050.ismail@uludag.org.tr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0511181301320.13959@g5.osdl.org>

On Friday 18 November 2005 23:13, you wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Ismail Donmez wrote:
> > Maybe you could officially require all commit messages to be UTF-8 then
> > the problem would be just solved for future commits at least.
>
> Just think about what that would mean for a second.
>
> What do people put in commit messages? They put things like filenames, to
> indicate that they changed file so-and-so because of issue so-and-so, or
> they needed to include header file so-and-so to fix a problem.
>
> So by virtue of forcing all commit messages to be in UTF-8, you've
> suddenly forced all filesystems to do UTF-8 too.
>
> Take that one step further: you've also forced all the file _contents_
> you talk about to be in UTF-8, since the commit message might quote part
> of the file ("'xyzzy' was misspelled, it should be 'abcde'").
>
> Or alternatively, you've forced the commit message to no longer match the
> reality that it tries to explain.
>
> See the problem?
>
> And that's ignoring the fact that you've unilaterally forced probably 50%
> of asian users to use an environment that they don't normally use.
>
> Remember: it's actually pretty _easy_ for most of the western world to
> move to UTF-8, because 99% of what we do doesn't really care one whit, and
> the remaining 1% isn't usually even a huge problem (ie it's such a small
> percentage that even if you show the wrong character for it, people
> understand what it said).

These days you can just open kwrite, select encoding and voila you don't have 
to change anything on the filesystem you can still use whatever $LANG you 
use. We would just force them to use a working editor imho. Nothing else. And 
thats not much to ask is it? Even joe(1) can edit utf-8 these days that must 
tell something.

Regards,
ismail

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-18 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-18 16:33 Rss produced by git is not valid xml? Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 17:26 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 19:27   ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 20:02     ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 20:08       ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 20:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 20:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 20:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 20:55               ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 20:51             ` Josef Weidendorfer
2005-11-18 21:01               ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 20:45           ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 21:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 21:22               ` Ismail Donmez [this message]
2005-11-18 21:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-18 21:29               ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-19  8:48                 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-18 20:55           ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-18 21:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 21:33               ` Ismail Donmez
2005-11-18 21:48               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 22:12                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 23:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 23:34                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-18 23:53                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2005-11-19  1:22                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19  8:49                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2005-11-19 10:58                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-18 23:57                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-18 23:58                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19  0:29                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-18 23:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-19  0:34                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-19  0:37                     ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19  1:05                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-19 10:31                         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19 17:52                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-20  1:16                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-20  3:10                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-20  4:13                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]                             ` <20051127025249.GA12286@vrfy.org>
2005-11-27  3:57                               ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-27  4:13                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-28  0:39                                   ` [PATCH 2/3] mailinfo: allow -u to fall back on latin1 to utf8 conversion Junio C Hamano
2005-11-28  6:32                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28  9:21                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-27 16:18                                 ` Rss produced by git is not valid xml? Kay Sievers
2005-11-19  0:04       ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-20 18:28         ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-21  8:38           ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-11-21  9:28             ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-19  3:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2005-11-19  4:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-19  6:31 Marco Costalba

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