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From: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use explicit pointers for execl...() sentinels.
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:12:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603130412.k2D4CW1b011631@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Jeff King <peff@peff.net>  of "Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:31:21 EST." <20060313033121.GA14601@coredump.intra.peff.net>

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 08:08:12PM +0200, Timo Hirvonen wrote:
> > NULL pointer does not point to any data, it just says it's 'empty'.  So
> > it doesn't need to be same type pointer as specified in the function
> > prototype.  Pointers are just addresses, it doesn't matter from to code
> > generation point of view whether it is (char *)0 or (void *)0.

> Sorry, but I think you're wrong according to the C standard. Pointers of 
> different types do NOT have to share the same representation (e.g.,
> there have been some platforms where char* and int* were different
> sizes). A void pointer must be capable of representing any type of
> pointer (for example, holding the largest possible type). However, if
> sizeof(void *) == 8 and sizeof(char *) == 4,

Very improbable, they'll be the same normally ("void *" is a way of getting
rid of the overloading of the meaning of "char *" for this before ANSI C).
Sure, sizeof(int *) might be 4, but I think that is pretty far off.

>                                              you have a problem with
> variadic functions which are expecting to pull 4 byte off the stack. 

There are special rules for variadic functions, probably pointers would be
cast to/from void * in such a case by the compiler.

> In a non-variadic function, the compiler would do the right implicit
> casting. In a variadic function, it can't. 

It sure can. The rules where defined so that it works.

> The real question is, does git want to care about portability to such
> platforms.

Broken platform, on which the compiler fails miserably in doing its job?
No, it doesn't.

> If you remain unconvinced, I can try to find chapter and verse of the
> standard.

Please do.

> > sizeof(unsigned long) is sizeof(void *) in real world.

> Are you saying that because it encompasses all of the platforms you've
> worked on, or do you have some evidence that it is largely the case? It
> certainly isn't guaranteed by the C standard.

More because a machine with pointers that are much larger than the largest
"normal" integer would be pretty weird (sure, on intel 8086 they where 32
("far" pointer, segment + offset) and 16 bits, but...
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-13 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-11 19:29 [PATCH] Trivial warning fix for imap-send.c Art Haas
2006-03-12 10:44 ` Mark Wooding
2006-03-12 11:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-03-12 13:59     ` [PATCH] Use explicit pointers for execl...() sentinels Mark Wooding
2006-03-12 15:13       ` Timo Hirvonen
2006-03-12 17:32         ` Mark Wooding
2006-03-12 18:08           ` Timo Hirvonen
2006-03-13  3:31             ` Jeff King
2006-03-13  4:12               ` Horst von Brand [this message]
2006-03-14  0:42                 ` [OT] " Jeff King
2006-03-12 16:57   ` [PATCH] Trivial warning fix for imap-send.c Linus Torvalds
2006-03-12 18:01     ` Mark Wooding
2006-03-12 19:20       ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-03-13  2:59         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-03-13  4:36           ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-03-13  5:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-13  6:37               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-03-13  6:46                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-13 16:37                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-03-13  3:38         ` Jeff King
2006-03-13  4:14           ` Horst von Brand
2006-03-13 16:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-13  6:41           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-03-12 21:51       ` Horst von Brand
2006-03-12 23:02       ` Linus Torvalds

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