From: Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
To: Matthew L Foster <mfoster167@yahoo.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>,
Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: git and time
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:23:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060928002327.GA22593@spearce.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060928001241.62887.qmail@web51013.mail.yahoo.com>
Matthew L Foster <mfoster167@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ignoring the separate issue of replication for a momment, can someone respond to my time integrity
> question about whether a future version of git could trust/prefer its local time rather than a
> remote/sub/parent (non replicated) git server's timestamp? How do we fix gitweb.cgi, ref-log? How
> useful is gitweb.cgi if timestamps are all over the place? It does not make sense that commit
> order is currently out of sync with time order in the main linux kernel tree git repo on
> kernel.org. Why must each and every repo be dependent on time being set properly on all other git
> servers? How useful is change history or commit order without some concept of (local) time order?
Dependency order is all that matters.
It doesn't matter if K. Hacker makes a bug fix at 8 am his local
time or 3 days ago. All that matters is that K. Hacker made it by
changing version A to version B. Therefore commit B (containing
the bug fix) depends on commit A and only commit A (which may in
turn depend on commit A^, etc.).
That dependency in turn implies that you can't have bug fix B without
whatever feature/bug fix was A, and what that dependend on, etc.
Thus you know you have some particular chain of events as a result
of having B. That's all that's interesting.
It _may_ matter to me that I received commit B (and maybe commit A)
at 3 pm my local time. It may not.
In general I don't care too much about when a commit comes to me and
when it doesn't or when it was written, though I do look at
git log next@{yesterday}..next
to see what Junio has pushed out recently. Since I tend to
fetch only once per day (and usually around the same time of day)
this works reasonably well.
--
Shawn.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-28 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-26 23:23 git and time Matthew L Foster
2006-09-26 23:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-26 23:32 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-26 23:33 ` Jeff King
2006-09-27 0:27 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 1:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 8:42 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-27 15:28 ` Jeff King
2006-09-27 14:09 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 14:29 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-27 18:01 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 18:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 20:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 21:16 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 21:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 22:28 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 23:02 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 0:12 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 0:21 ` Jeff King
2006-09-28 0:23 ` Shawn Pearce [this message]
2006-09-28 1:39 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-29 7:52 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-29 14:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-29 14:21 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-28 1:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 1:48 ` Matthew L Foster
[not found] ` <20060927220404.8e216945.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-28 2:04 ` Sean
2006-09-28 2:49 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:43 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060927230330.90c63d23.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-28 3:03 ` Sean
2006-09-28 3:26 ` Tom Prince
2006-09-28 13:17 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-28 14:50 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 15:29 ` Rogan Dawes
2006-09-28 16:55 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 17:33 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 17:42 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-28 19:43 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 19:50 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-28 22:29 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-28 22:55 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 8:16 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-28 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 19:18 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 0:27 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-29 1:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 2:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 20:36 ` Robin Rosenberg
2006-09-28 20:46 ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-09-28 22:12 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:25 ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-09-28 22:31 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:45 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 3:07 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 3:39 ` Tom Prince
2006-09-28 3:47 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-28 4:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 1:36 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-28 2:29 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 4:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 14:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 16:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-29 22:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-30 4:50 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-30 7:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-30 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 23:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 0:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-01 0:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 8:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 8:37 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-10-02 23:50 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-29 20:42 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 21:56 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 22:46 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 22:57 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 18:53 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-27 16:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 18:00 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-09-27 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-29 20:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 1:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 0:01 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 3:34 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <20060926234309.b16aa44e.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 3:43 ` Sean
2006-09-27 4:50 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20060927010437.5fa57ed0.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 5:04 ` Sean
2006-09-27 5:52 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <20060927021529.69fd7274.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 6:15 ` Sean
2006-09-27 4:28 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 4:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 10:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 15:11 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 20:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 21:36 ` Shawn Pearce
[not found] ` <20060927002745. 15344.qmail@web51005.mail.yahoo.com>
2006-09-27 0:56 ` Sean
[not found] ` <20060926205632.5d487cc9.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 0:47 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060926210721.36eb509d.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 1:07 ` Sean
2006-09-27 1:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 1:31 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060926215836.f4a25297.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 1:58 ` Sean
2006-09-27 2:31 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20060926224133.714337eb.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 2:41 ` Sean
2006-09-29 17:37 ` Jan Harkes
[not found] ` <20060929134616.7966d18c.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-29 17:46 ` Sean
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-28 0:49 apodtele
2006-09-28 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 16:50 apodtele
[not found] <20060928170110.GD3650@socrates.priv>
2006-09-28 17:30 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 18:21 apodtele
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