From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthew L Foster Subject: Re: git and time Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20060928173051.94640.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060928170110.GD3650@socrates.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Sep 28 19:43:49 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GSzv3-0006GD-AR for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:43:33 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030309AbWI1Rna (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:43:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030327AbWI1Rna (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:43:30 -0400 Received: from shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net ([24.71.223.10]:24729 "EHLO pd5mo1so.prod.shaw.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030309AbWI1Rn3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:43:29 -0400 Received: from pd5mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.233]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J6B00ERKD57UW40@l-daemon> for git@vger.kernel.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:41:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd5mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J6B000BYD56K3D0@pd5mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for git@vger.kernel.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:41:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from socrates.priv ([68.148.44.50]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J6B00FL0D569X11@l-daemon> for git@vger.kernel.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:41:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from socrates.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by socrates.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8SHigkS021790 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:44:42 -0600 Received: (from cougar@localhost) by socrates.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8SHigRJ021789 for git@vger.kernel.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:44:42 -0600 Received: from socrates.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by socrates.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8SHe1Ar021758 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:40:02 -0600 Received: from serve.wwwroot17.net [209.51.149.122] by socrates.priv with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.4) for (single-drop); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:40:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from media by serve.wwwroot17.net with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GSzip-0000Ed-Vz for tom.prince@media-group.com; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:31:04 -0400 Received: from [129.128.83.10] (helo=mail.ualberta.net) by serve.wwwroot17.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1GSzip-0000EP-1P for tom.prince@media-group.com; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:30:55 -0400 Received: from web51004.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.135]:30673) by mail.ualberta.net with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GSziy-000CjV-06 for tom.prince@ualberta.net; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:31:04 -0600 Received: (qmail 94642 invoked by uid 60001); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:30:52 +0000 Received: from [207.172.80.85] by web51004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:30:51 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <20060928170110.GD3650@socrates.priv> To: Tom Prince DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1WgJQZ8aiCbNkyu7FHzKLSvu88YGVKZ3pf6yjh6VZrhI0l9715XkStL8LU2WuO7E441Ag0Zae7RBlBwgE5lOrlS9GyRFbnCaKN/1p3TP7GpelZudEtSamBXaHaWRbdIQuX/JkiSE3gu9765OowQb2E7xCFbY/HSZS9AnYTn9bzs= ; X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on serve.wwwroot17.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 X-Spam-Level: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: --- Tom Prince wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:55:08AM -0700, Matthew L Foster wrote: > > > > --- Rogan Dawes wrote: > > > > > I just don't think that any of the kernel developers feel the need to > > > police any one else's clocks . . . they're more interested in the > > > contents of the patch. > > > > I am not saying git should "police any one else's clocks", I am saying git should be designed > or > > configured in such a way, using local time, that it obviates the current reliance on everyone > > else's clock being set correctly. > > > > -Matt > > The point is, it DOES NOT rely on anyone's clock being set correctly. gitweb.cgi does. It should be possible to export git data, through say a web interface, in a such a way that local time order is consistent with commit order. [responding to Linus' mail here:] I understand that git doesn't care about time internally as it treats it as a random number for people to care about or not on their own, I am only saying that local time is more likely to be cared about than disparate remote creation times. -Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com