From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sean Subject: Re: VCS comparison table Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:53:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9e4733910610140807p633f5660q49dd2d2111c9f5fe@mail.gmail.com> <45357411.20500@utoronto.ca> <200610180246.18758.jnareb@gmail.com> <45357CC3.4040507@utoronto.ca> <4536EC93.9050305@utoronto.ca> <87lkncev90.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <453792A8.1010700@utoronto.ca> <878xjc2qeb.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <453803E6.2060309@utoronto.ca> <87ods727pn.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <45382120.9060702@utoronto.ca> <87irie1wvv.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <453A7D7E.8060105@utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carl Worth , Linus Torvalds , Jakub Narebski , Andreas Ericsson , bazaar-ng@lists.canonical.com, git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat Oct 21 22:53:19 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GbNqI-00009L-VE for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:53:19 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161026AbWJUUxQ (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:53:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751758AbWJUUxQ (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:53:16 -0400 Received: from bayc1-pasmtp07.bayc1.hotmail.com ([65.54.191.167]:41761 "EHLO BAYC1-PASMTP07.CEZ.ICE") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751751AbWJUUxP (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:53:15 -0400 X-Originating-IP: [65.93.43.81] X-Originating-Email: [seanlkml@sympatico.ca] Received: from linux1.attic.local ([65.93.43.81]) by BAYC1-PASMTP07.CEZ.ICE over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:59:04 -0700 Received: from guru.attic.local ([10.10.10.28]) by linux1.attic.local with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GbMu9-0002OO-F1; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:53:13 -0400 To: Aaron Bentley Message-Id: <20061021165313.dba67497.seanlkml@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <453A7D7E.8060105@utoronto.ca> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.4; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2006 20:59:05.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE4D3760:01C6F553] Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:05:18 -0400 Aaron Bentley wrote: > Our experience really is that it does work. Of course it works as long as you accept the implicit requirements of supporting them and ignore the cases where they change out from underneath the user. But as soon as users want to embrace distributive models where there isn't a central shared repo, at best revno's are unhelpful and at worst they are counterproductive. The proof of this is that if revno's were sufficient bzr wouldn't need revid's. Since the utility provided by revno's seems so minimal even in the case where they do work, Git simply doesn't bother with them. And "our" experience is that Git really does work well without them. Sean From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sean Subject: Re: VCS comparison table Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:53:13 -0400 Message-ID: <20061021165313.dba67497.seanlkml__31643.6986359351$1161464024$gmane$org@sympatico.ca> References: <9e4733910610140807p633f5660q49dd2d2111c9f5fe@mail.gmail.com> <45357411.20500@utoronto.ca> <200610180246.18758.jnareb@gmail.com> <45357CC3.4040507@utoronto.ca> <4536EC93.9050305@utoronto.ca> <87lkncev90.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <453792A8.1010700@utoronto.ca> <878xjc2qeb.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <453803E6.2060309@utoronto.ca> <87ods727pn.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <45382120.9060702@utoronto.ca> <87irie1wvv.wl%cworth@cworth.org> <453A7D7E.8060105@utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bazaar-ng@lists.canonical.com, Linus Torvalds , Andreas Ericsson , Carl Worth , git@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Narebski X-From: bazaar-ng-bounces@lists.canonical.com Sat Oct 21 22:53:42 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvbg-bazaar-ng@m.gmane.org Received: from esperanza.ubuntu.com ([82.211.81.173]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GbNqe-0000B3-L5 for gcvbg-bazaar-ng@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:53:40 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=esperanza.ubuntu.com) by esperanza.ubuntu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GbNqT-0007gp-0A; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:53:29 +0100 Received: from bayc1-pasmtp07.bayc1.hotmail.com ([65.54.191.167] helo=BAYC1-PASMTP07.CEZ.ICE) by esperanza.ubuntu.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GbNqG-0007gS-J1 for bazaar-ng@lists.canonical.com; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:53:16 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [65.93.43.81] X-Originating-Email: [seanlkml@sympatico.ca] Received: from linux1.attic.local ([65.93.43.81]) by BAYC1-PASMTP07.CEZ.ICE over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:59:04 -0700 Received: from guru.attic.local ([10.10.10.28]) by linux1.attic.local with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GbMu9-0002OO-F1; Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:53:13 -0400 To: Aaron Bentley Message-Id: <20061021165313.dba67497.seanlkml@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <453A7D7E.8060105@utoronto.ca> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.4; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2006 20:59:05.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE4D3760:01C6F553] X-BeenThere: bazaar-ng@lists.canonical.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: bazaar-ng discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: bazaar-ng-bounces@lists.canonical.com Errors-To: bazaar-ng-bounces@lists.canonical.com Archived-At: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:05:18 -0400 Aaron Bentley wrote: > Our experience really is that it does work. Of course it works as long as you accept the implicit requirements of supporting them and ignore the cases where they change out from underneath the user. But as soon as users want to embrace distributive models where there isn't a central shared repo, at best revno's are unhelpful and at worst they are counterproductive. The proof of this is that if revno's were sufficient bzr wouldn't need revid's. Since the utility provided by revno's seems so minimal even in the case where they do work, Git simply doesn't bother with them. And "our" experience is that Git really does work well without them. Sean