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From: Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: If I were redoing git from scratch...
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:16:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061104191651.GC2517@spearce.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611040829040.25218@g5.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> or for somebody who re-implements git in Java (where 
> performance isn't going to be the major issue anyway, and you probably do 
> "small" things like "commit" and "diff", and never do full-database things 
> like "git repack"), _then_ you can happily look at having something 
> fancier. Right now, it's too easy to just look at cumbersome interfaces, 
> and forget about the fact that those interfaces is sometimes what allows 
> us to practically do some things in the first place.

Yes and no.  :-)

As the only person here who has hacked on some of Git and also
reimplemented the core on disk data structures in Java I can say
I mostly agree with Linus.

Abstractions like the repository (to allow different GIT_DIRs to
be used in the same process) isn't really a big deal and is not
a large impact on performance.  They could be implemented in the
current C core.

But trying to abstractly represent an object in Java the same
way that it is represented in Git costs a huge amount of memory.
Java is at least 16 bytes of overhead per object, before you get to
store anything in it.  Translation: Linus is right, doing a real
implementation of "git repack" in Java is nuts.  It would barely
be able to handle git.git, let alone linux.git or mozilla.git.

-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-04 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-04 11:34 If I were redoing git from scratch Junio C Hamano
2006-11-04 12:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-04 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-04 19:16   ` Shawn Pearce [this message]
2006-11-04 22:29     ` Robin Rosenberg
2006-11-04 22:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-04 23:15         ` Linus Torvalds

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