From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.176.0/21 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Petr Baudis Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make git-clone --use-separate-remote the default Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:42:03 +0100 Message-ID: <20061123234203.GN7201@pasky.or.cz> References: <20061123225835.30071.99265.stgit@machine.or.cz> <7vejrtiwqd.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 23:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: git@vger.kernel.org Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7vejrtiwqd.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> X-message-flag: Outlook : A program to spread viri, but it can do mail too. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnOCq-0004sl-J1 for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:42:12 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757498AbWKWXmJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:42:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757499AbWKWXmJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:42:09 -0500 Received: from w241.dkm.cz ([62.24.88.241]:28067 "EHLO machine.or.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757498AbWKWXmG (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:42:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 1878 invoked by uid 2001); 24 Nov 2006 00:42:03 +0100 To: Junio C Hamano Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 12:12:10AM CET, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Petr Baudis writes: > > > and --use-immingled-remote can be used to get the original behaviour; > > it is also implied by --bare. > > What's immingled? One dictionary says Immingle \Im*min"gle\, v. t. To mingle; to mix; to unite; to blend. [R.] --Thomson. but perhaps it's too much an obscure word... better suggestions welcomed. > > We get confused, frustrated and data-losing users *daily* on #git now > > because git-clone still produces the crippled repositories having the > > remote and local heads freely mixed together. > > > > Signed-off-by: Petr Baudis > > Being strongly opinionated, not giving enough credit for the > evolutionary process behind the history and venting frustration > in the proposed commit log message is never a good strategy to > get the patch applied. Yes, sorry, the last days were a bit tiring to me. I'm not sure what evolutionary process should I describe, though... > Even though I fully agree that use-separate-remotes should be > the default, to the point that I do not think we do not even > need a backward compatibility option. People who want to use > traditional layout for simple one-remote-branch-only project > would not suffer anyway because 'origin' still means origin in > the new layout (refs/remotes/origin/HEAD). I don't know, we still at least need to keep the functionality for --bare. > We would need to update the tutorials to match this,though. I > think it talks about the traditional layout and say 'See, now > you can run "ls .git/refs/heads/{master,origin}"' or something > like that. Oops, yes. I can try to go through the tutorials during tomorrow or the next week... -- Petr "Pasky" Baudis Stuff: http://pasky.or.cz/ The meaning of Stonehenge in Traflamadorian, when viewed from above, is: "Replacement part being rushed with all possible speed."