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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, nigel@nigel.suspend2.net,
	"J.H." <warthog9@kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	webmaster@kernel.org
Subject: Re: How git affects kernel.org performance
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 10:03:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070107090336.GA7741@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45A0B63E.2020803@zytor.com>

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 12:58:38AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Willy Tarreau wrote:
> >
> >At work, we had the same problem on a file server with ext3. We use rsync
> >to make backups to a local IDE disk, and we noticed that getdents() took
> >about the same time as Peter reports (0.2 to 2 seconds), especially in
> >maildir directories. We tried many things to fix it with no result,
> >including enabling dirindexes. Finally, we made a full backup, and switched
> >over to XFS and the problem totally disappeared. So it seems that the
> >filesystem matters a lot here when there are lots of entries in a
> >directory, and that ext3 is not suitable for usages with thousands
> >of entries in directories with millions of files on disk. I'm not
> >certain it would be that easy to try other filesystems on kernel.org
> >though :-/
> >
> 
> Changing filesystems would mean about a week of downtime for a server. 
> It's painful, but it's doable; however, if we get a traffic spike during 
> that time it'll hurt like hell.
> 
> However, if there is credible reasons to believe XFS will help, I'd be 
> inclined to try it out.

The problem is that I have no sufficient FS knowledge to argument why
it helps here. It was a desperate attempt to fix the problem for us
and it definitely worked well.

Hmmm I'm thinking about something very dirty : would it be possible
to reduce the current FS size to get more space to create another
FS ? Supposing you create a XX GB/TB XFS after the current ext3,
you would be able to mount it in some directories with --bind and
slowly switch some parts to it. The problem with this approach is
that it will never be 100% converted, but as an experiment it might
be worth it, no ?

Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-07  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20061214223718.GA3816@elf.ucw.cz>
     [not found] ` <20061216094421.416a271e.randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
     [not found]   ` <20061216095702.3e6f1d1f.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]     ` <458434B0.4090506@oracle.com>
     [not found]       ` <1166297434.26330.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]         ` <1166304080.13548.8.camel@nigel.suspend2.net>
     [not found]           ` <459152B1.9040106@zytor.com>
     [not found]             ` <1168140954.2153.1.camel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-01-07  4:22               ` [KORG] Re: kernel.org lies about latest -mm kernel Jeff Garzik
2007-01-07  4:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07 20:11                 ` Greg KH
2007-01-07 21:30                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-07 21:54                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-07 22:21                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-07 22:53                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07 23:32                         ` Martin Langhoff
     [not found]               ` <45A08269.4050504@zytor.com>
2007-01-07  5:24                 ` How git affects kernel.org performance H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-07  5:39                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07  8:55                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-07  8:58                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-07  9:03                         ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2007-01-07 10:28                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-07 10:52                             ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-07 18:17                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07 19:13                               ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                 ` <9e4733910701071126r7931042eldfb73060792f4f41@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-07 19:35                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07 10:50                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-07 18:49                             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-07 19:07                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-07 19:28                                 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-07 19:37                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07  9:15                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-07  9:38                         ` Rene Herman
2007-01-08  3:05                         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2007-01-08 12:58                           ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-08 13:41                             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-01-08 13:56                               ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-08 13:59                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-08 14:17                                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-08 13:43                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-09  1:09                               ` Paul Jackson
2007-01-09  2:18                                 ` Jeremy Higdon
     [not found]                             ` <20070109075945.GA8799@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-01-09  7:59                               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-09  7:59                               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-09  7:59                               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-09 16:23                                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                   ` <20070110015739.GA26978@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-01-10  1:57                                     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-10  1:57                                     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-10  1:57                                     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-10  3:20                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                       ` <20070110140730.GA986@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-01-10 14:07                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-10 14:07                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-10 14:07                                         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-01-12 10:54                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-01-07 14:57                   ` Robert Fitzsimons
2007-01-07 19:12                     ` J.H.
2007-01-08  1:51                     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-01-07 15:06                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-01-07 20:31                     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-08 14:46                       ` Nicolas Pitre

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