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From: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Daniel Barkalow <barkalow@iabervon.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Second parent for reverts
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:22:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070509202224.GG3141@spearce.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705092206540.4167@racer.site>

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 May 2007, Daniel Barkalow wrote:
> 
> > The discussion about having a header to specify, for a revert commit, 
> > what it reverts made me realize that this header *would* be useful, but 
> > that we don't need a *new* header for it. I think that the right method 
> > is to add the parent of the reverted commit as a second parent for the 
> > revert.
> 
> I am not so sure. In a sense, you are correct. But everybody who does "git 
> log --no-merges" would no longer see reverts. Which is somewhat incorrect.

Right.

I've actually done what Daniel just talked about doing in one of my
"production" repositories.  I did it by hand as a developer had
created a bad merge and accidentially reverted 800 files during
that merge.  80 or so commits later along a public non-rewinding
branch coworkers realized things weren't right, and asked me
to fix the mess.  As I wanted to save the blame data when I
reverted-the-revert I did what Daniel suggests.

But since the revert-the-revert wasn't really an interesting point
in history, and neither was the bad merge, I don't really care that
neither shows up with --no-merges.  The original bad merge was a
simple honest mistake made by a developer who was new to Git, and
was only caused because merge-recursive wasn't installed properly
on that system.


As Dscho says, most reverts are interesting points in time.  *Why*
a particular revert was done is important.

And so I have to disagree quite a bit with Daniel's idea, for exactly
that reason.  If I'm looking at a block of code in a file I want to
know why its there.  If blame tells me its a revert of something,
that tells me we tried another path and it didn't work out.  I might
be sitting here looking at this line because I'm thinking of redoing
whatever it was that wasn't good!

So that revert commit message better say why that thing didn't
work out.

If I really do care about the source of that line, I can always
re-run blame on the parent of the reverted commit (hence why ^
is so nice as a suffix on a commit-ish!) and examine the line again.

Hmm.  I should teach git-gui to parse out the revert message and
let you click into its parent.  Simple enough.  Maybe it will be
in 0.7.0.  Maybe it won't be.  ;-)

-- 
Shawn.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-09 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-09 19:20 [RFC] Second parent for reverts Daniel Barkalow
2007-05-09 20:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-09 20:22   ` Shawn O. Pearce [this message]
2007-05-09 22:26     ` Johan Herland
2007-05-09 21:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-09 22:16   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-10 16:35     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-10 18:06       ` Johan Herland
2007-05-10 18:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-27 14:08           ` [PATCH 00/15] git-note: A mechanisim for providing free-form after-the-fact annotations on commits Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:09             ` [PATCH 01/15] git-note: Add git-note command for adding/listing/deleting git notes Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:10             ` [PATCH 02/15] git-note: (Documentation) Add git-note manual page Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:11             ` [PATCH 03/15] git-note: (Administrivia) Add git-note to Makefile, .gitignore, etc Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:11             ` [PATCH 04/15] git-note: (Plumbing) Add plumbing-level support for git notes Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:12             ` [PATCH 05/15] git-note: (Plumbing) Add support for git notes to git-rev-parse and git-show-ref Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:13             ` [PATCH 06/15] git-note: (Documentation) Explain the new '--notes' option " Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:13             ` [PATCH 07/15] git-note: (Almost plumbing) Add support for git notes to git-pack-refs and git-fsck Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:14             ` [PATCH 08/15] git-note: (Decorations) Add note decorations to "git-{log,show,whatchanged} --decorate" Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:14             ` [PATCH 09/15] git-note: (Documentation) Explain new behaviour of --decorate in git-{log,show,whatchanged} Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:15             ` [PATCH 10/15] git-note: (Transfer) Teach git-clone how to clone notes Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:15             ` [PATCH 11/15] git-note: (Transfer) Teach git-fetch to auto-follow notes Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:15             ` [PATCH 12/15] git-note: (Transfer) Teach git-push to push notes when --all or --notes is given Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:16             ` [PATCH 13/15] git-note: (Documentation) Explain the new --notes option to git-push Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:16             ` [PATCH 14/15] git-note: (Tests) Add tests for git-note and associated functionality Johan Herland
2007-05-27 14:17             ` [PATCH 15/15] git-note: Add display of notes to gitk Johan Herland
2007-05-27 20:09             ` [PATCH 00/15] git-note: A mechanisim for providing free-form after-the-fact annotations on commits Junio C Hamano
2007-05-28  0:29               ` Johan Herland
2007-05-28  0:59               ` Jakub Narebski
2007-05-28  4:37             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-28 10:54               ` Johan Herland
2007-05-28 16:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-28 16:40                   ` Johan Herland
2007-05-28 16:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-28 17:48                       ` Johan Herland
2007-05-28 20:45                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-28 21:35                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-05-28 23:37                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-29  3:12                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-29  3:22                               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-05-29  7:04                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-05-29 11:04                               ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-29 11:12                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-29  7:06                           ` Johan Herland
2007-05-29  8:22                             ` Jeff King
2007-05-29  9:23                               ` Johan Herland
2007-05-28 20:45                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-28 21:19                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-05-28 23:46                   ` [PATCH] Add fsck_verify_ref_to_tag_object() to verify that refname matches name stored in tag object Johan Herland
2007-05-28 17:29               ` [PATCH 00/15] git-note: A mechanisim for providing free-form after-the-fact annotations on commits Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-28 17:42                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-28 17:58                   ` Johan Herland
2007-05-10 22:33       ` [RFC] Second parent for reverts Martin Langhoff
2007-05-10  1:43   ` Junio C Hamano

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