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From: Jan Hudec <bulb@ucw.cz>
To: Marco Costalba <mcostalba@gmail.com>
Cc: Fredrik Kuivinen <frekui@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Karl Hasselstr?m <kha@treskal.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>, Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>,
	Michael Niedermayer <michaelni@gmx.at>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: FFmpeg considering GIT
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:52:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070510165215.GA13060@efreet.light.src> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e5bfff550705100420x63b365f7x526c1d58d9d5c761@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 13:20:02 +0200, Marco Costalba wrote:
> On 5/9/07, Jan Hudec <bulb@ucw.cz> wrote:
> >On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 23:09:25 +0200, Fredrik Kuivinen wrote:
> >> I have used PyQt for some smaller projects (notably Hgct, a no longer
> >> developed
> >> commit tool for git and Mercurial. See
> >> http://repo.or.cz/w/hgct.git?a=tree). For me
> >> PyQt has worked very well. The python interface to Qt is more or less a
> >> direct
> >> translation of the C++ interface, so the excellent documentation troll
> >> tech provides
> >> for Qt can be used when developing with PyQt as well.
> >>
> >> I have never seen the segfaulting you mention. Maybe my programs have 
> >been
> >> too
> >> small to trigger that bug...
> >
> >It's not about size of the programs. It's about having to be careful not to
> >refer to widgets inside eg. dialog box from outside and close that dialog
> >box.
> 
> In Qt all the classes that ineriths from QObject are memory managed,
> to be more clear
> you can say that one class is "child" of another class (always
> ineritherd from QObject) that becames the parent.
> 
> When you delete the parent, all his children are deleted too, this is
> a (big) feature to avoid
> missing free() calls for resources created with mallocs() , (well, in
> C++ we say 'delete' for resources created by 'new' but the concept is
> more or less the same).

I know well how it works. And while it is definitely a nice feature in C++
(though it can't beat well done reference-counting smart pointers as Gtkmm
has), it is a gross misfeature in any dynamic language.

And no, I am not objecting to existence of that system -- it's useful in C++.
What I say is, that the PyQt bindings are buggy because it completely
fails to make this feature compatible with python memory management - python
program should not be able to segfault the interpreter no matter how buggy
that program is.

-- 
						 Jan 'Bulb' Hudec <bulb@ucw.cz>

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-10 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-02  9:29 FFmpeg considering GIT Panagiotis Issaris
2007-05-02 23:48 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-05-03  1:03   ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-04  0:42     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-05-04  7:21       ` [RFC?] Telling git about more complex relationships between commits (Was: Re: FFmpeg considering GIT) Johan Herland
2007-05-04  9:36         ` Alex Riesen
2007-05-04 11:39           ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-04 12:06             ` Andrew Ruder
2007-05-04 12:30             ` Johan Herland
2007-05-04 11:53           ` Johan Herland
2007-05-04 22:11             ` Alex Riesen
2007-05-05 12:49               ` Johan Herland
2007-05-05 18:03                 ` Alex Riesen
2007-05-05 16:13               ` Johan Herland
2007-05-04 11:10         ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-04 12:22           ` Johan Herland
2007-05-03  1:48 ` FFmpeg considering GIT Martin Langhoff
2007-05-03 18:00 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2007-05-03 20:00   ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-03 20:05     ` david
2007-05-03 20:13       ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-04 13:46     ` Michael Niedermayer
2007-05-04 15:53       ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-04 16:09         ` Johannes Sixt
2007-05-04 17:23           ` Florian Weimer
2007-05-04 16:40       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-05-04 18:17       ` Carl Worth
2007-05-04 18:25         ` Johan Herland
2007-05-04 20:24         ` Michael Niedermayer
2007-05-05  4:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-05 13:35         ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-05 17:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-05 22:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-05 22:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-06  7:49                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-07 12:13                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-07 12:30                   ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-07 12:50                   ` Johan Herland
2007-05-07 12:56                   ` Alex Riesen
2007-05-08  6:30                     ` Marco Costalba
2007-05-09  4:28                       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-09  6:38                         ` Marco Costalba
2007-05-09 18:17                           ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-05-09 18:28                           ` Jan Hudec
2007-05-09 21:09                             ` Fredrik Kuivinen
2007-05-09 21:36                               ` Jan Hudec
2007-05-10 11:20                                 ` Marco Costalba
2007-05-10 16:52                                   ` Jan Hudec [this message]
2007-05-07 17:52                   ` Jan Hudec
2007-05-07 22:10                     ` Gábor Farkas
2007-05-07 23:21                       ` Randal L. Schwartz
     [not found]                       ` <fcaeb9bf0705080707x7ad28afelf98ecd93276042d1@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-08 15:53                         ` Gábor Farkas
2007-05-07 19:10                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-08  2:03                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-05-08  7:26                   ` Jeff King
2007-05-06  7:56             ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-06 10:19             ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-06 16:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-06  8:15           ` Marco Costalba
2007-05-06 11:14             ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-06 12:19               ` Marco Costalba
2007-05-06 12:33                 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-06 12:33                 ` Marco Costalba
2007-05-06 12:59                   ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-06 13:03                     ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-09 22:30                     ` Pavel Roskin
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2007-05-08  3:39 Brett Schwarz
2007-05-08  4:06 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-08  4:19   ` Shawn O. Pearce

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