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From: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
To: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>,
	Julian Phillips <julian@quantumfyre.co.uk>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, dev <dev@cvs2svn.tigris.org>
Subject: Re: CVS -> SVN -> Git
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:39:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070715013949.GA20850@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46994BDF.6050803@alum.mit.edu>

Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>:
> Could you give a quick summary of the relevant differences between CVS
> and RCS files in this context?  Then I'd be happy to try to figure out
> how bad the situation still is today, and whether it can be easily improved.

I found my copy of the bug report, and I misremembered the problem
slightly.  It turns out to be even more relevant to this 
discussion than I thought.

Thread begins with <20040810031409.GA25564@thyrsus.com> on
9 Aug 2004.  The thread title was "RFC -- enhancing cvs2svn to have a
notion of spans of mergeable commits".  Your mailing-list archive
search can't seem to find it, unfortunately.  I'll repost the query
iseparately

> Other people have complained about having to convert from SVN to
> distributed SCMs, because the SVN model doesn't map so easily to their
> favorite.

OK.  But I think that if SVN -> X is hard, CVS -> X is going to be harder.

> You are basically suggesting that an SVN repository is the best lingua
> franca of the SCM world, which I don't believe.

Not quite.  I'm suggesting it's an appropriate lingua franca for centralized
VCSes with branching, e.g. everything pre-Arch.

>                                               The CVS history *does*
> have to be deformed a bit to fit into SVN, and an svn2xxx converter
> would have to undo the deformation.

Then perhaps the right thing to think about is this: how exactly does
CVS history need to be deformed, and is there some way to express the
lost information as conventional properties or tags?

> My idea is not to built (for example) cvs2git; rather, I'd like cvs2svn
> to be split conceptually into two tools:

Well, that makes more sense.  But how would whatever the first half outputs
be different from an svn dump file? 
-- 
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-15  1:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-13 14:48 CVS -> SVN -> Git Julian Phillips
2007-07-13 23:03 ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-14  5:30   ` Martin Langhoff
2007-07-14 17:09     ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-14 17:32       ` Chris Shoemaker
2007-07-14 20:01         ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-14 18:14       ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-07-15  2:22         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-07-14 19:52       ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-07-14 20:58         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-14 21:50         ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2007-07-14 22:19         ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-14 22:44           ` Karl Fogel
2007-07-14 23:23           ` David Frech
2007-07-15  2:30             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-07-15 11:48             ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-16  1:08               ` Martin Langhoff
2007-07-16  1:13                 ` Julian Phillips
2007-07-16  1:30                 ` Karl Fogel
2007-07-15  1:39           ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2007-07-15 12:04             ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-15 13:36               ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-07-16  1:05             ` Martin Langhoff
2007-07-19 12:02               ` Markus Schiltknecht
2007-07-20  3:51                 ` Karl Fogel
2007-07-19 19:14               ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-07-20  8:45                 ` Markus Schiltknecht
2007-07-15 23:09       ` Scott Lamb
2007-07-19 19:18     ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-07-19 19:15 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-07-20  5:58   ` Julian Phillips

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