Git User's Survey 2007

Git User's Survey 2007

[Jakub Narebski]

Hi all,

We would like to ask you a few questions about your use of the GIT
version control system. This survey is mainly to understand who is
using GIT, how and why.

The results will be discussed on the git mailing list and published to 
the GIT wiki at http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSurvey2007

We'll close the survey in three weeks starting from 20 August 2007,
on 10 September 2007.

Please devote a few minutes of your time to fill this simple
questionnaire, it will help a lot the git community to understand your
needs, what you like of GIT, and of course what you don't like  of it.

The survey can be found here:
  http://www.survey.net.nz/survey.php?94e135ff41e871a1ea5bcda3ee1856d9
  http://tinyurl.com/26774s

-- 
Jakub Narebski

Re: Git User's Survey 2007

[Jakub Narebski]

I have send this survey to git mailing list, LKML, Linux-MIPS, 
Linux-NFS, OpenVZ, Agave, collectd, DirectFB, ELinks, Lilypond, Herrie, 
netconf, KDbg, Palava, OLPC, Project Sidestep, Sourcemage Linux distro, 
Tangram 2, Thousand Parsec, U-Boot, X.Org, xcb, D-BUS, HAL, Cairo, 
Mesa3D, WINE, XMMS2, XStrikeForce and LWN.  Posts to X.Org, Thousand 
Parsec were automatically rejected: probably subscribe only lists.
Posts to OLPC, KDbg, Linux-NFS, HAL, XMMS2, Sourcemage Linux distro, 
Elinks, collectd, netconf, Mesa3D, D-BUS, U-Boot wait for list 
moderator approval.



NOTE: if somebody has filled survey *before* official start, to be more 
exact before 16 August, he/she has only free-form answers saved (no 
checkbox or radio button, i.e. single-answer or multiple-answer 
questions), dues to my error when creating survey. Please fill those 
questions (and only those questions) again.

You can check how survey.net viewed your answers at
  http://www.survey.net.nz/members.php?page=single&qn=1304

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Re: Git User's Survey 2007

[Matthieu Moy]

Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:

> I have send this survey to [...]

Posted to linuxfr.org (french-speaking Linux and free-software news site)

http://linuxfr.org/~moy/25128.html

-- 
Matthieu

Re: Git User's Survey 2007

[Jakub Narebski]

I couldn't find if the survey announcement made it to KDbg, collectd, 
netconf and itools mailing lists: all of them are "avaiting moderator 
approval".

I couldn't send announcement to elinks and revctrl mailing lists, as 
they are [true] subscribe only. 

If you subscribe to those lists, could you please check if announcement 
made it, and if not, post "Git User's Survey 2007" anouncement? TIA.
-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Re: Git User's Survey 2007

[Jan Engelhardt]

On Aug 19 2007 01:28, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>To:  <git@vger.kernel.org>
Bcc: <linux-kernel...>

What's a Bcc good for if it ain't B. :)

>The results will be discussed on the git mailing list and published to 
>the GIT wiki at http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSurvey2007

And http://www.survey.net.nz/results.php?94e135ff41e871a1ea5bcda3ee1856d9
Funny things there. "x86_86" arch - yep, I'd like to have that one too!



	Jan
-- 

Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Jakub Narebski]

This is partail summary of Git User's Survey 2007 after 1 week of 
running. It is based on "View Text Results" page:
  http://www.survey.net.nz/members.php?page=results&qn=1304

We have around 445 individual responses, as compared to (I think) 115 
answers (Base = 115) for previous survey. That is quite a bit.


04. Which programming languages are you proficient with?

It losk like there is only 3/4 people proficient in Perl as compared to 
Python; it looks like Python is more popular. C is most popular, with 
only a few (if everything is all right with the results page) people 
proficient in Tcl/Tk. I'm sorry, git-gui and gitk guys; it looks like
not many developers...


19. How do you obtain GIT?

Around twice as many people use binary packages as source tarball (or 
source package, I think). Around half the people compiles its own git 
(pull is also followed by compilation).


26. Which porcelains do you use?

Most people use core-git, some use cogito (the fact that it was lately 
deprecated and is no longer developed notwithstanding), some use StGIT,
3 even use pg (despite it is unmaintained). More people use StGIT than 
Guilt, but this can be cause by the fact that Guilt (formerly gq) is 
younger. Quite a bit use own scripts. 8 choose other... and there is no 
"what other" question, unfortunately...


28. Which (main) git web interface do you use for your projects?

Most use gitweb (which is distributed with git), 7 use cgit, 1 wit 
(Ruby), most probably XMMS2 project, 1 git-php (I wonder who...), and 
there are 20 "other" answers, which I am most curious about. What are 
they?


39. Did you participate in previous Git User's Survey?

43 people did out of 368 who answered this question, out of 115 who did 
participate in the previous survey. Bit curious.


55. Would commerical (paid) support from a support vendor be of interest 
to you/your organization?

Only 44 answers yes, 217 no, 126 not applicable (which was menat to 
encompass people who do not use git for work).

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Shawn O. Pearce]

Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 04. Which programming languages are you proficient with?
> 
> It losk like there is only 3/4 people proficient in Perl as compared to 
> Python; it looks like Python is more popular. C is most popular, with 
> only a few (if everything is all right with the results page) people 
> proficient in Tcl/Tk. I'm sorry, git-gui and gitk guys; it looks like
> not many developers...

Rather sad given their user base.  gitk seems to have at least 30%
of the respondants while git-gui is somewhere between 10-14%,
depending upon the question asked.  Odd.  qgit has a smaller
respondant base (~7.7%) but is probably the tool that more Git
users would be comfortable hacking on since it is developed in C++.
 
-- 
Shawn.

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi,

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:

> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 04. Which programming languages are you proficient with?
> > 
> > It losk like there is only 3/4 people proficient in Perl as compared to 
> > Python; it looks like Python is more popular. C is most popular, with 
> > only a few (if everything is all right with the results page) people 
> > proficient in Tcl/Tk. I'm sorry, git-gui and gitk guys; it looks like
> > not many developers...
> 
> Rather sad given their user base.

Not only their user base, but also their portability.  Tcl/Tk compile _out 
of the box_ on MinGW, for example.  That is much more than can be said 
about GTK, Python amongst others.

But then, Tcl is not _that_ difficult, and we're doing pretty fine, 
methinks.

Ciao,
Dscho

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Jakub Narebski]

Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:

>> 04. Which programming languages are you proficient with?
>> 
>> It look like there is only 3/4 people proficient in Perl as compared to 
>> Python; it looks like Python is more popular.

I meant here that Perl to Python is around 3 to 4; more people are
proficient in Python than in Perl.

>>                                              C is most popular, with  
>> only a few (if everything is all right with the results page) people 
>> proficient in Tcl/Tk. I'm sorry, git-gui and gitk guys; it looks like
>> not many developers...
> 
> Rather sad given their user base.  gitk seems to have at least 30%
> of the respondants while git-gui is somewhere between 10-14%,
> depending upon the question asked.  Odd.  qgit has a smaller
> respondant base (~7.7%) but is probably the tool that more Git
> users would be comfortable hacking on since it is developed in C++.

It is not *that* bad, as there are 14 people proficient in Tcl/Tk,
while there are 5 people who had made 5 or more commits to either
gitk or git-gui. But it is not encouraging.

I wonder if PyGTK is as portable as Tcl/Tk...
-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Gábor Farkas]

Jakub Narebski wrote:
> 
> I wonder if PyGTK is as portable as Tcl/Tk...

GTK does not run natively on osx, tcl/tk does.


p.s: there are some ways to make GTK run on osx, like running it using 
the apple x11-server, but then it looks ugly and does not have the 
'native' feeling, or try to make it run with the gtk-osx port, which is 
incomplete :)

gabor

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[David Kastrup]

Gábor Farkas <gabor@nekomancer.net> writes:

> Jakub Narebski wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if PyGTK is as portable as Tcl/Tk...
>
> GTK does not run natively on osx, tcl/tk does.
>
>
> p.s: there are some ways to make GTK run on osx, like running it using
> the apple x11-server, but then it looks ugly and does not have the
> native' feeling,

Doesn't Tcl/Tk also look ugly and does not have the native feeling?
But at least a user does not have to invest much work to get there.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Gábor Farkas]

David Kastrup wrote:
> Gábor Farkas <gabor@nekomancer.net> writes:
> 
>> Jakub Narebski wrote:
>>> I wonder if PyGTK is as portable as Tcl/Tk...
>> GTK does not run natively on osx, tcl/tk does.
>>
>>
>> p.s: there are some ways to make GTK run on osx, like running it using
>> the apple x11-server, but then it looks ugly and does not have the
>> native' feeling,
> 
> Doesn't Tcl/Tk also look ugly and does not have the native feeling?
> But at least a user does not have to invest much work to get there.
> 

hmm.. he at least needs the X11 server installed (which is not 
by-default installed). but that's probably installed for a developer.

gabor

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi,

> > Doesn't Tcl/Tk also look ugly and does not have the native feeling?
> > But at least a user does not have to invest much work to get there.

Funny.  _Even_ on this list, the git mailing list, there have been enough 
hints how to change the look and feel of Tcl/Tk.  D'oh.

Ciao,
Dscho

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[David Kastrup]

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

>> > Doesn't Tcl/Tk also look ugly and does not have the native
>> > feeling?  But at least a user does not have to invest much work
>> > to get there.
>
> Funny.  _Even_ on this list, the git mailing list, there have been
> enough hints how to change the look and feel of Tcl/Tk.  D'oh.

The common user experience is not magically improved by somebody
having discussed the problem somewhere sometime.  D'oh.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Mike Hommey]

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 01:28:39PM +0200, Gábor Farkas <gabor@nekomancer.net> wrote:
> Jakub Narebski wrote:
> >
> >I wonder if PyGTK is as portable as Tcl/Tk...
> 
> GTK does not run natively on osx, tcl/tk does.

Maybe you're not aware of http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx

Mike

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Gábor Farkas]

Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 01:28:39PM +0200, Gábor Farkas <gabor@nekomancer.net> wrote:
>> Jakub Narebski wrote:
>>> I wonder if PyGTK is as portable as Tcl/Tk...
>> GTK does not run natively on osx, tcl/tk does.
> 
> Maybe you're not aware of http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx
> 

no, i am aware of it, i even mentioned it in my mail, in the P.S. section

> or try to make it run with the gtk-osx port, which is incomplete :) 


for example, on this page:
http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx/build-instructions

they write:
"
NOTE: This is mainly meant for developers wanting to help out with GTK+ 
Mac OS X, not for users. The port is not yet finished or usable for 
mainstream use.
"

gabor

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi,

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Jakub Narebski wrote:

> I wonder if PyGTK is as portable as Tcl/Tk...

It is not.  I ended my attempts with contempt after two weeks to compile 
_Python_ on MinGW.  I came to the conclusion that the developers of Python 
do not care about being able to compile Python on Windows with Open Source 
tools only.

Of course, that means that you cannot compile Python modules with MinGW 
(at least as far as I know).

Ciao,
Dscho

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Torgil Svensson]

On 8/27/07, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder if PyGTK is as portable as Tcl/Tk...

Tk is integrated in the official Python library while PyGTK is not so
I guess Tk wins even on Python (Idle [included editor] and matplotlib
uses it as default).

PyGTK works pretty well though even on win32 (after installing a
handful dependencies). I haven't tried to compile any of these myself
though, compiling these things on win32 is usually a PITA.

//Torgil

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Dan Chokola]

On 8/26/07, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 04. Which programming languages are you proficient with?
>
> It losk like there is only 3/4 people proficient in Perl as compared to
> Python; it looks like Python is more popular. C is most popular, with
> only a few (if everything is all right with the results page) people
> proficient in Tcl/Tk. I'm sorry, git-gui and gitk guys; it looks like
> not many developers...
>

Ruby people, represent! (Hopefully I'm not the only one.)

> 28. Which (main) git web interface do you use for your projects?
>
> Most use gitweb (which is distributed with git), 7 use cgit, 1 wit
> (Ruby), most probably XMMS2 project, 1 git-php (I wonder who...), and
> there are 20 "other" answers, which I am most curious about. What are
> they?
>

All right! Someone actually uses my crappy Wit interface!

> 55. Would commerical (paid) support from a support vendor be of interest
> to you/your organization?
>
> Only 44 answers yes, 217 no, 126 not applicable (which was menat to
> encompass people who do not use git for work).
>

Are questions like this at all indicative of where Git is looking towards going?

> --
> Jakub Narebski
> Poland

-- 
Dan Chokola

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi,

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Dan Chokola wrote:

> On 8/26/07, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 55. Would commerical (paid) support from a support vendor be of 
> > interest to you/your organization?
> >
> > Only 44 answers yes, 217 no, 126 not applicable (which was menat to 
> > encompass people who do not use git for work).
> 
> Are questions like this at all indicative of where Git is looking 
> towards going?

No.  These questions are just questions.  Git is GPLv2, and it will 
probably stay that forever, so you are _free_ to start a commercial 
support scheme for Git, but others are free not to choose it.

I for one could imagine training people, and giving technical support for 
companies needing that support.

Ciao,
Dscho

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Benoit SIGOURE]

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On Aug 27, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Dan Chokola wrote:
>
>> On 8/26/07, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 55. Would commerical (paid) support from a support vendor be of
>>> interest to you/your organization?
>>>
>>> Only 44 answers yes, 217 no, 126 not applicable (which was menat to
>>> encompass people who do not use git for work).
>>
>> Are questions like this at all indicative of where Git is looking
>> towards going?
>
> No.  These questions are just questions.  Git is GPLv2, and it will
> probably stay that forever, so you are _free_ to start a commercial
> support scheme for Git, but others are free not to choose it.
>
> I for one could imagine training people, and giving technical  
> support for
> companies needing that support.

You seem to imply that GPLv3 would prevent any form of commercial  
support for Git...

Section 4 of GPLv3:
"you may offer support or warranty protection for a fee."

-- 
Benoit Sigoure aka Tsuna
EPITA Research and Development Laboratory



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Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi,

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Benoit SIGOURE wrote:

> On Aug 27, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Dan Chokola wrote:
> > 
> > > On 8/26/07, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 55. Would commerical (paid) support from a support vendor be of
> > > > interest to you/your organization?
> > > > 
> > > > Only 44 answers yes, 217 no, 126 not applicable (which was menat to
> > > > encompass people who do not use git for work).
> > > 
> > > Are questions like this at all indicative of where Git is looking
> > > towards going?
> > 
> > No.  These questions are just questions.  Git is GPLv2, and it will
> > probably stay that forever, so you are _free_ to start a commercial
> > support scheme for Git, but others are free not to choose it.
> > 
> > I for one could imagine training people, and giving technical support for
> > companies needing that support.
> 
> You seem to imply that GPLv3 would prevent any form of commercial 
> support for Git...

No, I was not.  I was only being overly precise in my description.  My 
apologies ;-)

Ciao,
Dscho

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Andreas Ericsson]

Dan Chokola wrote:
> On 8/26/07, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 55. Would commerical (paid) support from a support vendor be of interest
>> to you/your organization?
>>
>> Only 44 answers yes, 217 no, 126 not applicable (which was menat to
>> encompass people who do not use git for work).
>>
> 
> Are questions like this at all indicative of where Git is looking towards going?
> 

As Dscho wrote, I should think not, but having a company basing its business
around an opensource product usually means a lot of company-like features
get implemented, such as various forms of reporting, documentation, integration
with bugtrackers and trouble-ticket systems, etc, etc...

It is the way of companies to throw money rather than competence at temporary
problems, while more altruistic organizations such as opensource projects do
the exact opposite.

I for one would love if some support company could give git courses in sweden,
since that'd mean I wouldn't have to. ;-)

-- 
Andreas Ericsson                   andreas.ericsson@op5.se
OP5 AB                             www.op5.se
Tel: +46 8-230225                  Fax: +46 8-230231

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Jakub Narebski]

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007, Dan Chokola wrote:
> On 8/26/07, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:

>> 55. Would commerical (paid) support from a support vendor be of interest
>> to you/your organization?
>>
>> Only 44 answers yes, 217 no, 126 not applicable (which was menat to
>> encompass people who do not use git for work).
> 
> Are questions like this at all indicative of where Git is looking
> towards going? 

This question was actually requested on git mailing list to be in
the survey...

This question is to get to know if there is sufficient demand for
commercial git support for it to be viable. There are two possible
outcomes:

If there is enough demand, then company selling git support can make
a living. Company selling support for git means more git user's (because
some corp needs to have commercial/external support to be present) and
possibly more developers. It is possible that some revenue falls to main
git developers, be it by paying somebody to hack on git, or paying for
some feature or for fixing a bug fast.

If there is not enough demand, better to know it from onset that to have
company which tries to provide git support bancrupt. No failed support
company means no bad publicity on git; it _might_ mean that community
support is enogh for git...


Note that commercial (paid) support does not clash
with GPL. One does not need change in license to have commercial
git support. GPL allows paid support.

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[David Kastrup]

Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:

> This is partail summary of Git User's Survey 2007 after 1 week of 
> running. It is based on "View Text Results" page:
>   http://www.survey.net.nz/members.php?page=results&qn=1304
>
> We have around 445 individual responses, as compared to (I think) 115 
> answers (Base = 115) for previous survey. That is quite a bit.
>
>
> 04. Which programming languages are you proficient with?
>
> It losk like there is only 3/4 people proficient in Perl as compared
> to Python; it looks like Python is more popular. C is most popular,
> with only a few (if everything is all right with the results page)
> people proficient in Tcl/Tk. I'm sorry, git-gui and gitk guys; it
> looks like not many developers...

If the few developers are efficient and responsive due to their choice
of programming language, the net result might still work out fine.
But it might make the the project more susceptible to discontinuation
if existing developers can't sustain their involvement for some
reason.  On the other hand, code being inscrutable because of not
being expressible well in a more common language also carries its
dangers.

> 26. Which porcelains do you use?
>
> Most people use core-git, some use cogito (the fact that it was
> lately deprecated and is no longer developed notwithstanding), some
> use StGIT, 3 even use pg (despite it is unmaintained). More people
> use StGIT than Guilt, but this can be cause by the fact that Guilt
> (formerly gq) is younger.

I found guilt essentially unusable for me due to its documentation.
There is only man-page level documentation for the various commands
comprising it, but the overall design is just "this is just like patch
sets in ..." uh, Monotone?  Don't remember which it was.  Anyway, the
docs were quite useless to me as someone who did _not_ previously use
the system mentioned as reference.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Theodore Tso]

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 07:45:40AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> I found guilt essentially unusable for me due to its documentation.
> There is only man-page level documentation for the various commands
> comprising it, but the overall design is just "this is just like patch
> sets in ..." uh, Monotone?  Don't remember which it was.  Anyway, the
> docs were quite useless to me as someone who did _not_ previously use
> the system mentioned as reference.

The system guilt is more like is "quilt".  For people who are using
pure patches to maintain changes against mainline, quilt is the "rcs"
of that particular problem domain.  It would probably be a good idea
to have a pointer to Andreas Gruenbacher's, "How To Surive With Many
Patches or Introduction to Quilt" paper.

						- Ted

Re: Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Benoit SIGOURE]

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On Aug 27, 2007, at 2:51 AM, Jakub Narebski wrote:

> 28. Which (main) git web interface do you use for your projects?
>
> Most use gitweb (which is distributed with git), 7 use cgit, 1 wit
> (Ruby), most probably XMMS2 project, 1 git-php (I wonder who...), and
> there are 20 "other" answers, which I am most curious about. What are
> they?
>

I replied "other" because I didn't know whether all questions were  
mandatory or not :D
I don't use a git web interface...  for now.

So maybe 19 other people have been as dumb as me and replied "other"  
for a similar reason :)

-- 
Benoit Sigoure aka Tsuna
EPITA Research and Development Laboratory



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Git User's Survey 2007 partial summary

[Jakub Narebski]

This is partial summary of Git User's Survey 2007 after 2 weeks of 
running. It is based on "View Text Results" page:
  http://www.survey.net.nz/members.php?page=results&qn=1304

The same information but in graphical form you can see at
  http://www.survey.net.nz/results.php?94e135ff41e871a1ea5bcda3ee1856d9


10. What other SCM did/do you use?

Note that this question does not distinguish between SCMs/VCSs which 
were used prior to Git and used no longer, SCMs which are used beside 
(in parallel) to Git perhaps interacting with Git, and SCMs which are 
used instead of Git. Also note that this is _Git User's_ survey, so it 
those number for example do not represent number of e.g. users of 
Mercurial as compared to e.g. users of Subversion.

Below there is table of SCM used, sorted by the number of responses.
Note that annotations (like "a little CVS") were not weighted here.

There were 502 responses, 25 null responses (eviovalent to "none").
Only SCMs which has count more that 10 are shown. One person can (and 
usually did) chose more than one SCM.

  Name                      Count
  --------------------------------------------------
  Subversion                399
  CVS                       362
  Mercurial                 73
  Darcs                     59
  GNU Arch                  52
  RCS                       45
  Bazaar-NG                 40
  Perforce                  34
  ClearCase                 31
  Monotone                  23
  BitKeeper                 23
  Bazaar                    17
  SVK                       16
  SourceSafe                11
  SCCS                      10

  tla+baz+bzr               109

As you can see two most popular SCMs are Subversion ('svn') and CVS, 
with Subversion being slightly more popular. Among distributed SCMs 
with most count are Mercurial ('hg') and Arch and its descendants 
('tla', 'baz', 'bzr').


35. How does GIT compare to other SCM tools you have used?

  Answer                    Count
  ------------------------------------------------
  Better                    388
  Comparable (equal)        73
  Worse                     24

  TOTAL                     485 (129 null)

Clearly Git is superior SCM! (In the minds of _Git users_) ;-)
Seriously, one should take into consideration that those results
are biased, because it is _Git User's_ Survey, and people usually
choose SCM because they think it is best choice.

No answer (null answer) might mean that responder does not use and did 
not use other SCMs to compare, or at least think that he/she does not 
have sufficient basis for a comparison.


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26. Which porcelains do you use?

Multiple answers (one can use more than one porcelain).

  Porcelain                   Count
  ------------------------------------------------
  core-git                    428
  Cogito (deprecated)         45

 Patch management interface layers:
 ..................................
  StGIT                       37
  Guilt (formerly gq)         13
  pg (deprecated, abandoned)  7

  my own scripts              74
  other                       11

It is understandable that Cogito still has some users, even though it is 
deprecated, and [I think] all of its functionality can be found in 
git-core porcelain. It was meant as SCM / porcelain layer when git-core 
didn't have it and consisted almost only of plumbing commands.

Quite a bit of people use patch management interface: StGIT, Guilt, even 
deprecated and abandoned pg (Patchy Git). StGIT has more users than 
Guilt, although that might be caused by the fact that StGIT was here 
longer...

It is interesting that quite a bit of responders script their git usage: 
74 "my own script" users.

I am wondering what those 11 other are...


27. Which git GUI do you use?

Multiple answers (one can use more than one GUI). Note that for the 
first week and a bit of survey "CLI" answer had no explanation that it 
means command line interface, so results might be bit skewed.

  GUI                         Count
  ------------------------------------------------
  CLI (command line)          295
  gitk                        266
  git-gui                     91
  qgit                        68
  giggle                      43
  gitview                     13
  instaweb                    13
  tig                         38
  (h)gct                      3
  qct                         3
  KGit                        7
  git.el                      25
  other                       10

  giggle + gitview            56

As one can see almost as many people use gitk as CLI. Most used GUI are 
gitk and git-gui, most probably because they are distributed with git, 
and because they are portable. QGit is also quite popular, although 
GTK+ viewers, namely giggle and gitview have the same count summary 
(note that there might be instances of users using both giggle and 
gitview). I am a bit suprised about Giggle, I'd say.

Tig (text-mode interface for git) and git.el (GIT mode for Emacs) are 
also quite popular.

I wonder what are those 10 other GUI... and I didn't provide "What is 
this 'other GUI'?" question...


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44. Do you use the GIT wiki?

  233 yes, 239 no, 112 no answer

56. Do you read the mailing list? 

  168 yes, 303 no, 114 no answer

59. Do you use the IRC channel (#git on irc.freenode.net)?

  148 yes, 281 no, 198 no answer

(I do wonder a bit about "no answer" here. Does it mean: "There is git 
wiki/git mailing list/#git IRC channel?!? I didn't know."? Or does it 
mean something else: "I was too tired to answer this question...")

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Git User's Survey 2007

[Jakub Narebski]

It was little more than year ago since Git User's Survey
  http://marc.info/?l=git&m=115116592330648&w=2
  http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSurvey

I do wonder what has changed since then... ?

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

Re: Git User's Survey 2007

[Marco Costalba]

On 7/25/07, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was little more than year ago since Git User's Survey
>   http://marc.info/?l=git&m=115116592330648&w=2
>   http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSurvey
>
> I do wonder what has changed since then... ?
>

I think the next step will be to raise some funds to make Johannes
work out the Windows port :-)


Marco

Re: Git User's Survey 2007

[Steven Grimm]

Marco Costalba wrote:
> I think the next step will be to raise some funds to make Johannes
> work out the Windows port :-)

I was thinking the same thing when I read his reply. I'm not a Windows 
user, but I'd pitch in a bit of cash for that in the interest of 
spreading git around more widely. (Deferred self-interest: making git 
popular with Windows users will probably result in new features I'll 
want too.) Not enough to fund the whole thing -- I'm talking 
out-of-pocket here -- but if other people did the same we could probably 
come up with a respectable sum.

Though obviously the best case would be for some company to decide it 
wants the work done and make an actual business arrangement for it.

-Steve