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From: Shawn Bohrer <shawn.bohrer@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] git-reset.txt: Use uniform HEAD~N notation in all examples
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:01:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070901150153.GD7422@mediacenter.austin.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vabs6u3jt.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 02:40:22AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net> writes:
> 
> > Like:
> >
> >     HEAD, HEAD~1, HEAD~2
> >
> > If the syntax is changed in the middle (as it was in manual page),
> > that interrupts the kognitive flow of reading.
> >
> >     HEAD, HEAD^, HEAD~2
> >
> 
> I still would prefer to teach people HEAD^ earlier.  If you _REALLY_
> insist, I can live with spelling the HEAD~2 as HEAD^^ for
> consistency.
> 
> Wasn't with you that earlier I discussed that very basic things
> such as revision naming and range notation should be moved from
> rev-list documentation to more central place, and sructure the
> documentation in such a way that these should be read even
> before individual manual pages are consulted?  If we follow
> that, then by the time people read these examples, they _ought_
> to know that HEAD~1 is a longer-to-type way to say HEAD^ already.

Well I am a new user to git and I didn't find the mixed notation
confusing at all.  Perhaps this is because I read the tutorial first,
then the git user manual which both explain this clearly.

In either case I think eliminating either notation from the man pages is
a bad idea.  I'm quite confident that in the worst case a user will
think that if they want to refer to the parent they have to say HEAD^
and if they want to refer to the grandparent they have to say HEAD~2.
Most won't even find that strange since HEAD^ just seems shorter.  I
also think many users will be smart enough to infer that if they wanted
to they could say HEAD~3 or perhaps HEAD~1, though unless I saw it
somewhere I might not have guessed HEAD^^.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-01 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-31 17:47 [PATCH] git-reset.txt: Use uniform HEAD~N notation in all examples Jari Aalto
2007-08-31 19:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-01  8:39   ` Jari Aalto
2007-09-01  9:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-01 15:01       ` Shawn Bohrer [this message]
2007-09-01 20:40         ` Jari Aalto
2007-09-03  2:03           ` Miles Bader

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