From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Shawn O. Pearce" Subject: Re: Many gits are offline this week Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:53 -0400 Message-ID: <20071007230953.GC2137@spearce.org> References: <20071005010448.GQ2137@spearce.org> <863awq5p1y.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4d8e3fd30710050214j135260cn842ee7396a3d63c7@mail.gmail.com> <86tzp54sez.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20071007170153.GX2137@spearce.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Daniel Barkalow , "Randal L. Schwartz" , Paolo Ciarrocchi , git@vger.kernel.org To: Johannes Schindelin X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Oct 08 01:10:42 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IefGi-0002Xo-6j for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:10:40 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756309AbXJGXJ7 (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755076AbXJGXJ7 (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:59 -0400 Received: from corvette.plexpod.net ([64.38.20.226]:58320 "EHLO corvette.plexpod.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754866AbXJGXJ7 (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:59 -0400 Received: from [74.70.48.173] (helo=asimov.home.spearce.org) by corvette.plexpod.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IefFp-0005n1-Qp; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:09:45 -0400 Received: by asimov.home.spearce.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ECBD820FBAE; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - corvette.plexpod.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - spearce.org Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Johannes Schindelin wrote: > On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > > > For that matter, gitweb is essentially a limited porcelain. And this > > points out that all VCSes have alternative porcelains, but git is > > unusual in having convenient plumbing to support and encourage this. > > I do not consider viewers "porcelain". And gitweb is essentially just a > viewer. So you don't consider gitk to be porcelain? I do. The plumbing output of git-rev-list is uh, ugly. gitk may still not be the best looking application on the internet but it sure beats looking at rev-list output by eye. Porcelain is really anything that calls plumbing to make the task of invoking or processing the output of plumbing easier on the human using it. That's it. Obviously you can work Git by just the plumbing. Just like you can compute SHA-1 by hand. You just choose not to as the time it would take is more than you want to invest. Or have left in this mortal existance... I almost always forget about the web interfaces. There's a number of them and I don't use them often enough to really think about it. I don't know why I always forget about them. I never forget about StGit or qgit, and yet I never use those either... -- Shawn.