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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH,RFC 1/2] Make the list of common commands more exclusive
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:22:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071112062222.GA17462@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vzlxk8apz.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:21:44PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> writes:
> 
> > Remove apply, archive, cherry-pick, prune, revert, and show-branch, so
> > "git help" is less intimidating.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
> >
> > -apply
> > -archive
> > -prune
> > -revert
> > -show-branch
> 
> I am fine with this list, perhaps except apply.

I was borderline on apply, but given that people are familiar with
patch -p1, the only real advantage git-apply has is that automatically
deals with new files (which "git commit -a" or "git add -u" won't
automatically get).

What did you think about cherry-pick?  Was that omitted by accident?

> On the other hand, if you are shooting *really* for the absolute
> minimum set for the beginners, I would kill rm and possibly mv)
> in addition to your list:

Those did cross my mind as well.  :-)

> I have a bit of reservation about revert, but I'd imagine we
> could kill it, and also fetch, pull and push, if you are
> shooting for *real* beginners who work alone.  I think the only
> valid justification to drop "revert" from the list is to assume
> that the audience do not interact with the outside world, and
> dropping fetch/pull/push from the list is in line with that.

My mental model for git newbies is that they would probably be pulling
from upstream repositories (so I was tempted to remove git-init from
the common commands list), but they would rarely be cherry-picking or
reverting other people's changes.

They probably would be submitting changes back upstream using e-mail
before they learn how to publish their own repository, so commands I'd
be tempted to add would include git-format-patch, git-send-email, and
git-cherry.  But these commands are pretty complicated for beginners....

	     	       		    	   - Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-12  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-10 23:11 Deprecate git-fetch-pack? Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-11  0:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-11  3:09   ` Ask Bjørn Hansen
2007-11-11 11:05     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-11 21:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-11 22:21         ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-11 22:35           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-11 22:50             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-11 23:58               ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-12  0:16                 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-12 17:29                   ` Jon Loeliger
2007-11-12 17:33                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-12 18:56                       ` Jon Loeliger
2007-11-12 19:08                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-12 19:16                           ` Jon Loeliger
2007-11-12  0:57                 ` [PATCH,RFC 1/2] Make the list of common commands more exclusive Theodore Ts'o
2007-11-12  0:57                   ` [PATCH,RFC 2/2] Remove hint to use "git help -a" Theodore Ts'o
2007-11-12  2:21                   ` [PATCH,RFC 1/2] Make the list of common commands more exclusive Junio C Hamano
2007-11-12  5:48                     ` Ping Yin
2007-11-12  6:22                     ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-11-12  7:26                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-12 10:24                         ` Mike Hommey
2007-11-12 12:23                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-12  7:57                       ` Ask Bjørn Hansen
2007-11-12 10:21                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-12 15:20                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-12 10:15                 ` Deprecate git-fetch-pack? Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-12  1:10               ` Ask Bjørn Hansen
2007-11-11  8:32   ` Mike Hommey

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