Git Screencast ?

Git Screencast ?

[Michael Donaghy]

I am a new user of git and SCMs in general , I have learned a lot from 
the docs , irc and just using it , but there are just some concepts that 
hare hard to grasp , I am a very visual persion (probably like a lot of 
you :) ) , is there a screencast of git somewhere (for free) that can 
demonstrate some of the advanced features of git...
(Also...I have seen both Randal (Schwartz) and Linus' (you better know 
his last name) presentations at google on git , in which they explain 
the ideas behind git more than the actual usage,

Thanks

---Mike Donaghy-----------
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Re: Git Screencast ?

[Johannes Gilger]

On 21/11/07 08:02, Michael Donaghy wrote:
> I am a new user of git and SCMs in general , I have learned a lot from the 
> docs , irc and just using it , but there are just some concepts that hare 
> hard to grasp , I am a very visual persion (probably like a lot of you :) ) 

Hi Michael,

what helped me was 
a) looking at the directory structure under .git
b) reading the git user-manual
c) http://eagain.net/articles/git-for-computer-scientists/

Especially c) created a big aha-effect. If you really read all the text 
you should have understood most of it. And hey, since you're a visual 
person: there are images too! ;)

Greetings,
Jojo

-- 
git version 1.5.3.6.861.gd794

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Johan Herland]

On Wednesday 21 November 2007, Michael Donaghy wrote:
> I am a new user of git and SCMs in general , I have learned a lot from 
> the docs , irc and just using it , but there are just some concepts that 
> hare hard to grasp , I am a very visual persion (probably like a lot of 
> you :) ) , is there a screencast of git somewhere (for free) that can 
> demonstrate some of the advanced features of git...

There's a company called PeepCode that apparently sell a Git screencast, but 
I have no idea if it demonstrates advanced features, or just do the basics.

There seems to be a TOC on their website, so you can check that to see if 
contains what you need:

http://peepcode.com/products/git


Have fun!

...Johan

-- 
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www.herland.net

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Donaghy <mike@mikedonaghy.org> writes:

Michael> I am a new user of git and SCMs in general , I have learned a lot
Michael> from the docs , irc and just using it , but there are just some
Michael> concepts that hare hard to grasp , I am a very visual persion
Michael> (probably like a lot of you :) ) , is there a screencast of git
Michael> somewhere (for free) that can demonstrate some of the advanced
Michael> features of git...  (Also...I have seen both Randal (Schwartz) and
Michael> Linus' (you better know his last name) presentations at google on git
Michael> , in which they explain the ideas behind git more than the actual
Michael> usage,

Having been involved in that screencast that you reference, I'm curious
about what you think you're missing in order to use git.  The feedback
will help me produce better presentations.

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Re: Git Screencast ?

[Scott Chacon]

I've created a screencast on using Git to manage and deploy Rails
applications.  It's not purely about Git - goes into some Rails and
Capistrano usage, but there is a good amount of practical git workflow
- pushing, pulling, branching, etc.  It's free, too.  You can
watch/download it here:

http://jointheconversation.org/railsgit

Also, if you're in the Bay Area, we're hosting a Peepcode and Pizza
party on Git - where we'll show that git peepcode episode and have
some git related presentations.  You're welcome to come to that to
learn whatever you need, if you can.

http://ruby.meetup.com/123

Lastly, if you're a rubyist, I've written pretty comprehensive ruby
bindings to git that might be helpful because it's a bit more object
oriented approach to using git - the examples might help.

http://jointheconversation.org/rubygit

I'm also working on a new screencast on Git that's more visual
(example-wise) than most of the stuff I've seen, so I'll be happy to
email that to you when it's done.

Let me know if any of that is helpful.


> On Nov 21, 2007 2:36 PM, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Donaghy <mike@mikedonaghy.org> writes:
> >
> > Michael> I am a new user of git and SCMs in general , I have learned a lot
> > Michael> from the docs , irc and just using it , but there are just some
> > Michael> concepts that hare hard to grasp , I am a very visual persion
> > Michael> (probably like a lot of you :) ) , is there a screencast of git
> > Michael> somewhere (for free) that can demonstrate some of the advanced
> > Michael> features of git...  (Also...I have seen both Randal (Schwartz) and
> > Michael> Linus' (you better know his last name) presentations at google on git
> > Michael> , in which they explain the ideas behind git more than the actual
> > Michael> usage,
> >
> > Having been involved in that screencast that you reference, I'm curious
> > about what you think you're missing in order to use git.  The feedback
> > will help me produce better presentations.
> >

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Christian MICHON]

On Nov 26, 2007 10:33 PM, Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've created a screencast on using Git to manage and deploy Rails
> applications.  It's not purely about Git - goes into some Rails and
> Capistrano usage, but there is a good amount of practical git workflow
> - pushing, pulling, branching, etc.  It's free, too.  You can
> watch/download it here:
>
> http://jointheconversation.org/railsgit
>

nice :)

it's very useful...

-- 
Christian
--
http://detaolb.sourceforge.net/, a linux distribution for Qemu with Git inside !

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Patrick Aljord]

On Nov 27, 2007 3:02 PM, Patrick Aljord <patcito@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://jointheconversation.org/railsgit
> >

I think you can just use 'git-init' now no need for git-init-db.

also once you've created your remote bare git rep, you don't need to
use scp, you can just do:
$ git-push --all git://server/remote.git

and to push there automatically:
$ git remote add origin ssh://server/remote.git
$ git config branch.master.remote origin
$ git config branch.master.merge refs/heads/master
$ git fetch
$ git merge master

also for adding new files, rather than doing "git add file1 file2
file3  etc" I just do "git add ." and put in .gitignore all the files
that I don't want to commit but I don't know if that's recommended :)

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Michael Donaghy]

John Herland Said:
 > There's a company called PeepCode that apparently sell a Git
 > screencast, but
 > I have no idea if it demonstrates advanced features, or just do the
 > basics.
 >
 > There seems to be a TOC on their website, so you can check that to 
see > if
 > contains what you need:
 >
 > http://peepcode.com/products/git
 >
 >
 > Have fun!


Peepcode has some really good quality screen casts ,yes, but they are 
for pay , $10 per screen cast
and my original message said

 >> "..is there a screencast of git somewhere (for free) that can
 >> demonstrate some of the advanced features of git..."

Also thanks Johannes for that link , I will tak e a look at that

and Randal...
you are *EVERYWHERE* ... how do you do that ... , keep up the good work 
=) (see you in the irc --Ekim)

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Andreas Ericsson]

Michael Donaghy wrote:
> I am a new user of git and SCMs in general , I have learned a lot from 
> the docs , irc and just using it , but there are just some concepts that 
> hare hard to grasp , I am a very visual persion (probably like a lot of 
> you :) ) , is there a screencast of git somewhere (for free) that can 
> demonstrate some of the advanced features of git...
> (Also...I have seen both Randal (Schwartz) and Linus' (you better know 
> his last name) presentations at google on git , in which they explain 
> the ideas behind git more than the actual usage,
> 

The thing that helped me and my co-workers the most was running through
the steps of the tutorial, but stopping every time something wasn't
absolutely crystal clear and doing gitk or qgit (I prefer qgit, since
it seems to display things more consistently and also loads faster).

That primarily helped us get branches under control. We came from a
CVS world and never had any branches, as none of us had time or energy
to figure out how to merge them back together using those crippled scm's.

I noticed Johannes Gilger already sent you the link to git-for-scientists
thing which is also a really good aid, especially when you've read the
tutorial and some of the less tech-oriented docs.

-- 
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Re: Git Screencast ?

[Michael Donaghy]

Andreas Ericsson wrote:
> Michael Donaghy wrote:
>> I am a new user of git and SCMs in general , I have learned a lot from 
>> the docs , irc and just using it , but there are just some concepts 
>> that hare hard to grasp , I am a very visual persion (probably like a 
>> lot of you :) ) , is there a screencast of git somewhere (for free) 
>> that can demonstrate some of the advanced features of git...
>> (Also...I have seen both Randal (Schwartz) and Linus' (you better know 
>> his last name) presentations at google on git , in which they explain 
>> the ideas behind git more than the actual usage,
>>
> 
> The thing that helped me and my co-workers the most was running through
> the steps of the tutorial, but stopping every time something wasn't
> absolutely crystal clear and doing gitk or qgit (I prefer qgit, since
> it seems to display things more consistently and also loads faster).
> 
> That primarily helped us get branches under control. We came from a
> CVS world and never had any branches, as none of us had time or energy
> to figure out how to merge them back together using those crippled scm's.
> 
> I noticed Johannes Gilger already sent you the link to git-for-scientists
> thing which is also a really good aid, especially when you've read the
> tutorial and some of the less tech-oriented docs.
> 

Yes thank you , although a screen cast would still be ideal , the 
documentation is very good,
also , what do you think of git-gui ? , I think it is the best one

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Andreas Ericsson]

Michael Donaghy wrote:
> 
> also , what do you think of git-gui ? , I think it is the best one
> 

I don't use it. Partly because I tested it out when it was far from
ready and am still somewhat traumatized by the experience, and partly
because I'm very comfortable with the command-line tools and have
found a workflow that works nicely for me.

-- 
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Tel: +46 8-230225                  Fax: +46 8-230231

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Johannes Gilger]

On 22/11/07 20:47, Michael Donaghy wrote:
> Yes thank you , although a screen cast would still be ideal , the 
> documentation is very good,
> also , what do you think of git-gui ? , I think it is the best one

Hi Michael,

I think you're trying to hide the complexity of git. The problem with 
graphical tools is that they hide complexity from the user, which in 
some cases is only possibly/good if the user has understood the 
underlying principles already. Also I think that there are many things 
which can be done much quicker using a command-line than any gui (as all 
of the people here will agree). Git is not Time-Machine (this thing from 
Apple). It is also no good idea to try to view git from a svn's point of 
view, or try to compare commands. It took me a while to get over that 
and accept that git is different. I was frustated (and still am 
sometimes) but i finally understood the whole concept.

About screencasts: I haven't watched that many screencasts in general, 
but I can hardly imagine that they are better way of teaching things 
than reading a manual. Watching someone type in commands, hitting 
"Pause", then trying it myself doesn't seem more intuitive to me than 
just reading a manual and typing the commands given in regular 
intervals. Maybe someone can enlighten me about the use of screencasts 
(in a command-line environment).

Greetings,
Jojo

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Re: Git Screencast ?

[Shawn O. Pearce]

Johannes Gilger <heipei@hackvalue.de> wrote:
> On 22/11/07 20:47, Michael Donaghy wrote:
> > Yes thank you , although a screen cast would still be ideal , the 
> > documentation is very good,
> > also , what do you think of git-gui ? , I think it is the best one
> 
> I think you're trying to hide the complexity of git. The problem with 
> graphical tools is that they hide complexity from the user, which in 
> some cases is only possibly/good if the user has understood the 
> underlying principles already.

Actually some users have found that its easier to grok the index
by using git-gui.  You can more directly see the state of update
actions, and it is fairly easy to stage/unstage individual hunks
of files through git-gui.  Once you get that down then seeking
the same methods through the command line isn't too difficult,
many of the terms in git-gui are the same as the command line term,
to make the transition back and forth easier for the user.

-- 
Shawn.

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Karl Hasselström]

On 2007-11-23 15:58:25 -0500, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:

> Actually some users have found that its easier to grok the index by
> using git-gui. You can more directly see the state of update
> actions, and it is fairly easy to stage/unstage individual hunks of
> files through git-gui. Once you get that down then seeking the same
> methods through the command line isn't too difficult,

I spent a good chunk of time getting familiar with the index before
there was a git-gui, and I can only agree: git-gui makes it obvious
how simple the concept of an index really is, in a way the
command-line tools never did. With the command line, you have to
visualize it yourself, which means you have to understand it first;
but with git-gui, it's just drawn on your screen, plain and simple.

-- 
Karl Hasselström, kha@treskal.com
      www.treskal.com/kalle

Re: Git Screencast ?

[Johannes Gilger]

On 23/11/07 15:58, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
> Actually some users have found that its easier to grok the index
> by using git-gui.  You can more directly see the state of update
> actions, and it is fairly easy to stage/unstage individual hunks
> of files through git-gui.  Once you get that down then seeking
> the same methods through the command line isn't too difficult,
> many of the terms in git-gui are the same as the command line term,
> to make the transition back and forth easier for the user.

It seems that I myself did not realize what a good tool git-gui is. I 
started using git with the command line and so far have rarely needed to 
stage individual hunks (or explain the git principles to anyone). I did 
use gitk to visualize history (especially branches) though.

So, to sum it up, yeah, git-gui is a good way to find your way into git. 
After some time you realize yourself when to use the gui and when to 
stick to the command line.

Greetings,
Jojo

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Re: Git Screencast ?

[Michael Donaghy]

Johannes Gilger wrote:
> On 22/11/07 20:47, Michael Donaghy wrote:
>> Yes thank you , although a screen cast would still be ideal , the 
>> documentation is very good,
>> also , what do you think of git-gui ? , I think it is the best one
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I think you're trying to hide the complexity of git. The problem with 
> graphical tools is that they hide complexity from the user, which in 
> some cases is only possibly/good if the user has understood the 
> underlying principles already. Also I think that there are many things 
> which can be done much quicker using a command-line than any gui (as all 
> of the people here will agree). Git is not Time-Machine (this thing from 
> Apple). It is also no good idea to try to view git from a svn's point of 
> view, or try to compare commands. It took me a while to get over that 
> and accept that git is different. I was frustated (and still am 
> sometimes) but i finally understood the whole concept.
> 
> About screencasts: I haven't watched that many screencasts in general, 
> but I can hardly imagine that they are better way of teaching things 
> than reading a manual. Watching someone type in commands, hitting 
> "Pause", then trying it myself doesn't seem more intuitive to me than 
> just reading a manual and typing the commands given in regular 
> intervals. Maybe someone can enlighten me about the use of screencasts 
> (in a command-line environment).
> 
> Greetings,
> Jojo
> 

I don't know , maybe I learn differently , but
 >'Watching someone type in commands, hitting  "Pause", then trying it
 > myself'
is intuitive for me :)