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From: "Björn Steinbrink" <B.Steinbrink@gmx.de>
To: Mark Levedahl <mlevedahl@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	gitster@pobox.com, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Allowing override of the default "origin" nickname
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:01:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080111170127.GA23893@atjola.homenet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30e4a070801110839j6b27e224j9a83fc9975f2e4c6@mail.gmail.com>

On 2008.01.11 11:39:48 -0500, Mark Levedahl wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2008 10:03 AM, Johannes Schindelin >
> > Okay, so with your change the user has to either remember or lookup which
> > is the default remote.  Without your change, the user has to either
> > remember or lookup where origin points to.
> >
> > I still think your change does not help.
> 
> That's a theoretical argument: my *experience* with trying to make the
> current workflow operate was sufficiently bad and troublesome that it
> caused me to write code and fix it to enable the new workflow. Also,
> absent submodules the new workflow is fully supported by
> branch.<name>.remote: are you advocating the elimination of that
> existing feature?

AFAICT your main point is that you can do:
git config --get remotes.default

and get an unique _symbolic_ name, right? So while you still need to
lookup the value of remotes.default, you get e.g. "myremote" instead of
"git://myremote/foo.git" which you get from "git remote show origin". At
least that's how I interpreted it. Your argumentation wasn't that clear
on what you actually want to achieve/improve and why just looking up
"origin" isn't enough, IMHO.

A different approach, which feels more in-line with the current state of
things, might be to allow remote aliases. "origin" would be an alias of
"myremote", and "git remote show origin" might say "origin is an alias
for myremote" followed by the details of "myremote". So that would give
you the same benefit, but "origin" would keep its meaning, and you would
not get different behaviour depending on some configuration setting (so
the poor folks on #git can just assume that "origin" is the default for
everyone).

Admittedly, I don't see any use-case for aliases except for that origin
thing, but maybe someone else does?

Björn

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-11 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-11  3:29 Allowing override of the default "origin" nickname Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11  3:29 ` [PATCH] Teach remote machinery about remotes.default config variable Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11  3:29   ` [PATCH] git-remote - Unset remotes.default when deleting the default remote Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11  3:29     ` [PATCH] git-clone - Set remotes.default config variable Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11  3:29       ` [PATCH] git-submodule - Possibly inherit parent's default remote on init/clone Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11  8:00   ` [PATCH] Teach remote machinery about remotes.default config variable Junio C Hamano
2008-01-11 20:52     ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12  2:18       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-12  5:52         ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12  6:03           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-12  6:16             ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12  6:27               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-12 13:24                 ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12 18:46                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-12 19:34                     ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12 20:24                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-12 22:29                         ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-13 21:22                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-14  3:23                             ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-14  4:42                               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-15  4:55                                 ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-15  6:18                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-15 23:08                                     ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-16  0:17                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-16  1:25                                         ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-16  1:40                                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-12 20:26                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-12 22:24                         ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12 22:48                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-13 15:47                             ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-13 16:27                               ` [PATCH] Teach remote machinery about core.origin " Mark Levedahl
2008-01-13 16:27                                 ` [PATCH] git-remote - Unset core.origin when deleting the default remote Mark Levedahl
2008-01-13 16:27                                   ` [PATCH] git-clone - Set remotes.origin config variable Mark Levedahl
2008-01-13 16:27                                     ` [PATCH] git-submodule - Possibly inherit parent's default remote on init/clone Mark Levedahl
2008-01-13 16:27                                       ` [PATCH] Teach git-submodule to use master's remote when updating subprojects Mark Levedahl
2008-01-14 11:05                                   ` [PATCH] git-remote - Unset core.origin when deleting the default remote Jeff King
2008-01-15  5:02                                     ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-15 16:50                                       ` Jeff King
2008-01-13 21:27                             ` [PATCH] Teach remote machinery about remotes.default config variable Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-14  1:50                               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-14  6:49                                 ` safecrlf not in 1.5.4 (was Re: [PATCH] Teach remote machinery about remotes.default config variable) Steffen Prohaska
     [not found]                                   ` <31687420-EB17-4651-AD6C-07213311ABDA-wjoc1KHpMeg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-14  7:30                                     ` safecrlf not in 1.5.4 Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                   ` < 7vejcklv84.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>
     [not found]                                     ` <7vejcklv84.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-14  8:29                                       ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-14 19:41                                         ` [msysGit] " Junio C Hamano
2008-01-14  9:04                                       ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-14 17:35                                         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-01-14 11:18                                 ` [PATCH] Teach remote machinery about remotes.default config variable Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-14 12:16                                   ` valgrind test scripts (was Re: [PATCH] Teach remote...) Jeff King
2008-01-18  9:41                                 ` What's not in 'master' but should be Junio C Hamano
2008-01-18 10:15                                   ` Lars Hjemli
2008-01-18 10:24                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-18 10:53                                       ` Lars Hjemli
2008-01-18 11:09                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-18 11:54                                           ` Lars Hjemli
2008-01-18 12:34                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-18 14:19                                               ` Lars Hjemli
2008-01-18 20:59                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-18 10:40                                   ` What's not in 'master', and likely not to be until 1.5.4 Junio C Hamano
2008-01-18 11:25                                     ` Johannes Sixt
2008-01-18 11:40                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-18 13:04                                         ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-18 13:11                                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-18 20:36                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-18 20:58                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-21  4:46                                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-01-21 10:37                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-23  4:44                                               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-01-23 11:12                                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-18 22:07                                         ` Johannes Sixt
2008-01-18 22:37                                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-18 11:26                                     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-01-18 21:49                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  5:55                                         ` Imran M Yousuf
2008-01-21  6:29                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  6:42                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-21  6:41                                             ` [PATCH] submodule: Document the details of the command line syntax Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-21  6:47                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-18 12:17                                     ` What's not in 'master', and likely not to be until 1.5.4 Marco Costalba
2008-01-18 12:18                                       ` Marco Costalba
2008-01-18 12:53                                     ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-18 13:09                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-18 13:23                                         ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-21  2:37                                     ` What's not in 'master', and likely not to be in, " Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  5:21                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21  6:15                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  7:02                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  7:10                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  7:13                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  7:27                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  8:32                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  8:44                                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] read-cache.c: introduce is_racy_timestamp() helper Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21  8:46                                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] read-cache.c: fix timestamp comparison Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21 18:47                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 19:06                                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-21 19:09                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 19:24                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 19:26                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-21 19:47                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 20:38                                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-21 21:22                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21 22:02                                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-22  9:47                                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-22 17:25                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-22 22:00                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23  3:34                                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-23  3:53                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-21  8:29                                             ` What's not in 'master', and likely not to be in, until 1.5.4 Johannes Sixt
2008-01-21  5:35                                       ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-21  8:11                                       ` Marco Costalba
2008-01-18 18:28                                   ` What's not in 'master' but should be Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-18 18:36                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-18 19:57                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-19  6:14                                     ` Mike Hommey
2008-01-19 15:21                                     ` [PATCH] http-push: fix webdav lock leak Grégoire Barbier
2008-01-19 23:38                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-12 16:50           ` [PATCH] Teach remote machinery about remotes.default config variable Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-12 17:29             ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12 20:22               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-12  5:54         ` [PATCH] Teach remote machinery about core.origin " Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12  5:54           ` [PATCH] git-remote - Unset core.origin when deleting the default remote Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12  5:54             ` [PATCH] git-clone - Set remotes.origin config variable Mark Levedahl
2008-01-12  5:54               ` [PATCH] git-submodule - Possibly inherit parent's default remote on init/clone Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11 12:03 ` Allowing override of the default "origin" nickname Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-11 13:06   ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11 13:52     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-11 14:53       ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11 15:03         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-11 16:39           ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11 17:01             ` Björn Steinbrink [this message]
2008-01-11 17:27               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-01-11 15:25         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-01-11 16:15           ` Mark Levedahl
2008-01-11 21:12             ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-11 23:11 ` Daniel Barkalow

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