From: Dmitry Potapov <dpotapov@gmail.com>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Steffen Prohaska <prohaska@zib.de>,
Gregory Jefferis <jefferis@gmail.com>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: CRLF problems with Git on Win32
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:08:42 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080112150842.GG2963@dpotapov.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080111195022.GC29189@uranus.ravnborg.org>
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 08:50:22PM +0100, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:16:02AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > (Every place I've ever been at, people who had a choice would never ever
> > develop under Windows, so I've never seen any real mixing - even when some
> > parts of the project were DOS/Windows stuff, there was a clear boundary
> > between the stuff that was actually done under Windows)
>
> The reality I see is the other way around as common practice.
> For people that has never tried a Linux box the barrier
> is quite high and they prefer to stick with Windows.
And for those who have never tried Windows, it would be a great learning
barrier as well, and it is far for obvious what would be easy to learn
for someone has never had any experience with either of them before...
Of course, most people who has used computers for some time could not
escape having at least some experience with Windows, and, naturally
people prefer to stick to what they know, especially those who do not
like or find difficult to learn new stuff. Based on my observation, I
would say that those found learning Linux difficult would also find
difficult to learn other new things (like a new programming language),
and usually had more troubles in dealing with novel situations or doing
anything that required out-of-the-box thinking... Usually, they are
good only on one thing -- doing what they were told. There are some
exceptions, of course, but take a look at the number of open source
projects (where people write for fun of programming) and compare how
many of them are done by *nix users and Windows users. Isn't obvious
what most people who like programing prefer to use?
Dmitry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-12 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-07 9:16 CRLF problems with Git on Win32 Peter Karlsson
2008-01-07 9:57 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-07 10:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-07 12:15 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-07 10:12 ` Jeff King
2008-01-07 18:47 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-07 19:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-07 21:03 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-07 21:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-07 21:40 ` Steffen Prohaska
[not found] ` <3B08AC4C-A807-4155-8AD7-DC6A6D0FE134-wjoc1KHpMeg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-07 22:06 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7vzlvhxpda.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-07 22:58 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801071457040.3148-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-07 23:46 ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-08 11:09 ` git and unicode Gonzalo Garramuño
2008-01-08 15:09 ` Remi Vanicat
2008-01-08 20:36 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-08 8:55 ` CRLF problems with Git on Win32 Marius Storm-Olsen
2008-01-08 7:02 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 7:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-08 10:08 ` Jeff King
2008-01-08 10:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-08 12:20 ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-08 17:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20080108172957.GG22155-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 17:56 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 18:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-08 18:07 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7vmyrgry20.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 18:58 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 19:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-08 19:47 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7vir24rtfp.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:02 ` Steffen Prohaska
[not found] ` <B655B6FF-9377-434A-A979-2E758771B0FA-wjoc1KHpMeg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:15 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7v3at8rs4b.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:39 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-09 11:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801091100401.31053-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 12:45 ` Steffen Prohaska
[not found] ` <019B1C82-27BF-4B6B-981D-5498D31B5DD3-wjoc1KHpMeg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 13:32 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-08 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-09 8:03 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7vd4sbmnmz.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 10:48 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-09 20:25 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7vmyrehhkd.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 20:50 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801092047190. 31053@racer.site>
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801092047190.31053-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 21:03 ` Steffen Prohaska
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801091041570.31053-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 9:25 ` Peter Karlsson
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801101023380.11922-Hh8n7enkEC8qi7mQTfpNuw@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 11:57 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-11 3:03 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-11 3:03 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.080110115 5140.31053@racer.site>
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801101155140.31053-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 13:28 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-10 14:31 ` Peter Harris
[not found] ` <eaa105840801100631p6b95ed86j153d70244d474b03-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-11 13:12 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-11 15:39 ` Peter Harris
2008-01-08 19:59 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 20:11 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <7vbq7wrsb6.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:20 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 20:50 ` Dmitry Potapov
[not found] ` <20080108205054.GN6951-EQL4cN526mwi5CQI31g/s0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 21:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-08 21:57 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-08 21:31 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801081325010.3148-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 22:09 ` Sean
2008-01-08 22:51 ` Dmitry Potapov
[not found] ` <20080108225138.GA23240-EQL4cN526mwi5CQI31g/s0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-09 8:43 ` Abdelrazak Younes
2008-01-10 19:58 ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-10 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-10 21:28 ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-10 23:23 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-11 0:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 0:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-11 7:10 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 16:28 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 17:56 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 18:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 18:29 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 19:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-11 21:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-11 22:21 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-12 15:08 ` Dmitry Potapov [this message]
2008-01-12 17:54 ` [PATCH] [WIP] safecrlf: Add mechanism to warn about irreversible crlf conversions Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-12 19:14 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-13 9:05 ` [WIP v2] " Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 19:53 ` CRLF problems with Git on Win32 Christer Weinigel
2008-01-14 9:41 ` David Kågedal
2008-01-11 19:00 ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-12 15:26 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-10 20:50 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-01-10 21:15 ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-11 1:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-07 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-08 21:26 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-09 10:56 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-09 12:41 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-09 13:52 ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-09 14:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-09 15:22 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-09 15:03 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-09 17:37 ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-09 19:05 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-07 21:42 ` Thomas Neumann
2008-01-08 10:56 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-08 11:07 ` Jeff King
2008-01-08 11:54 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-08 11:52 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-08 13:07 ` Peter Harris
2008-01-08 15:20 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-08 15:58 ` Kelvie Wong
2008-01-08 21:33 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-09 18:46 ` Jan Hudec
2008-01-07 10:13 ` Peter Klavins
2008-01-07 12:58 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-07 13:50 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-07 14:14 ` Peter Klavins
2008-01-07 16:05 ` Steffen Prohaska
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