* Bug in gitk - can post the window off screen @ 2008-02-07 6:16 Tommy Thorn 2008-02-07 6:30 ` Shawn O. Pearce 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Tommy Thorn @ 2008-02-07 6:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: git Just a quick heads-up: I was running a dual screen setup with gitk on my 2nd monitor. When I later started gitk up without the 2nd monitor, the gitk window didn't appear. Given the time between the two sessions, it didn't occur to me what the problem was. Gitk should probably validate the "set geometry(main)" variable against the current resolution. Tommy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Bug in gitk - can post the window off screen 2008-02-07 6:16 Bug in gitk - can post the window off screen Tommy Thorn @ 2008-02-07 6:30 ` Shawn O. Pearce 2008-02-07 9:56 ` Robin Rosenberg 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Shawn O. Pearce @ 2008-02-07 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tommy Thorn; +Cc: git Tommy Thorn <tommy-git@thorn.ws> wrote: > Just a quick heads-up: I was running a dual screen setup with gitk on my > 2nd monitor. When I later started gitk up without the 2nd monitor, the > gitk window didn't appear. Given the time between the two sessions, it > didn't occur to me what the problem was. > > Gitk should probably validate the "set geometry(main)" variable against > the current resolution. Sad to say but this is a known issue with both gitk and git-gui. Both applications save the prior geometry and restore it during the next run, but neither validates the new geometry makes sense with the current available desktop space. :-\ -- Shawn. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Bug in gitk - can post the window off screen 2008-02-07 6:30 ` Shawn O. Pearce @ 2008-02-07 9:56 ` Robin Rosenberg 2008-02-07 10:10 ` Gerrit Pape 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Robin Rosenberg @ 2008-02-07 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Shawn O. Pearce; +Cc: Tommy Thorn, git torsdagen den 7 februari 2008 skrev Shawn O. Pearce: > Tommy Thorn <tommy-git@thorn.ws> wrote: > > Just a quick heads-up: I was running a dual screen setup with gitk on my > > 2nd monitor. When I later started gitk up without the 2nd monitor, the > > gitk window didn't appear. Given the time between the two sessions, it > > didn't occur to me what the problem was. > > > > Gitk should probably validate the "set geometry(main)" variable against > > the current resolution. > > Sad to say but this is a known issue with both gitk and git-gui. > Both applications save the prior geometry and restore it during > the next run, but neither validates the new geometry makes sense > with the current available desktop space. :-\ Seems KDE forces it back into visible space, but it is annoying that the gitk/git-gui windows do not come up on the same monitor as my cursor is on. Could we change it and save just size, just like "all other" apps? -- robin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Bug in gitk - can post the window off screen 2008-02-07 9:56 ` Robin Rosenberg @ 2008-02-07 10:10 ` Gerrit Pape 2008-02-23 11:37 ` [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit Gerrit Pape 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Gerrit Pape @ 2008-02-07 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robin Rosenberg; +Cc: Shawn O. Pearce, Tommy Thorn, git On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 10:56:19AM +0100, Robin Rosenberg wrote: > torsdagen den 7 februari 2008 skrev Shawn O. Pearce: > > Tommy Thorn <tommy-git@thorn.ws> wrote: > > > Just a quick heads-up: I was running a dual screen setup with gitk on my > > > 2nd monitor. When I later started gitk up without the 2nd monitor, the > > > gitk window didn't appear. Given the time between the two sessions, it > > > didn't occur to me what the problem was. > > > > > > Gitk should probably validate the "set geometry(main)" variable against > > > the current resolution. > > > > Sad to say but this is a known issue with both gitk and git-gui. > > Both applications save the prior geometry and restore it during > > the next run, but neither validates the new geometry makes sense > > with the current available desktop space. :-\ > > Seems KDE forces it back into visible space, but it is annoying that the > gitk/git-gui windows do not come up on the same monitor as my cursor is on. > Could we change it and save just size, just like "all other" apps? Not saving the geometry on exit was also suggested through the Debian BTS, "as window placement and sizing are the task of the window manager" http://bugs.debian.org/442253 Regards, Gerrit. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-07 10:10 ` Gerrit Pape @ 2008-02-23 11:37 ` Gerrit Pape 2008-02-23 12:52 ` Robin Rosenberg 2008-02-23 22:49 ` Paul Mackerras 0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Gerrit Pape @ 2008-02-23 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: git, Paul Mackerras Saving the geometry can cause several inconveniences, e.g. when using a temporary dual screen setup, or sharing ~/.gitk between multiple systems. Additionally it can be argued that window placement and sizing are the tasks of the window manager. So don't do that anymore. This has been requested by martin f krafft and Josh Triplett through http://bugs.debian.org/442253 http://bugs.debian.org/467121 Signed-off-by: Gerrit Pape <pape@smarden.org> --- gitk-git/gitk | 8 -------- 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/gitk-git/gitk b/gitk-git/gitk index f1f21e9..8039d19 100644 --- a/gitk-git/gitk +++ b/gitk-git/gitk @@ -1188,14 +1188,6 @@ proc savestuff {w} { puts $f [list set diffcontext $diffcontext] puts $f [list set selectbgcolor $selectbgcolor] - puts $f "set geometry(main) [wm geometry .]" - puts $f "set geometry(topwidth) [winfo width .tf]" - puts $f "set geometry(topheight) [winfo height .tf]" - puts $f "set geometry(pwsash0) \"[.tf.histframe.pwclist sash coord 0]\"" - puts $f "set geometry(pwsash1) \"[.tf.histframe.pwclist sash coord 1]\"" - puts $f "set geometry(botwidth) [winfo width .bleft]" - puts $f "set geometry(botheight) [winfo height .bleft]" - puts -nonewline $f "set permviews {" for {set v 0} {$v < $nextviewnum} {incr v} { if {$viewperm($v)} { -- 1.5.4.2 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-23 11:37 ` [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit Gerrit Pape @ 2008-02-23 12:52 ` Robin Rosenberg 2008-02-23 13:15 ` Jonathan del Strother 2008-02-23 22:49 ` Paul Mackerras 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Robin Rosenberg @ 2008-02-23 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gerrit Pape; +Cc: git, Paul Mackerras lördagen den 23 februari 2008 skrev Gerrit Pape: > Saving the geometry can cause several inconveniences, e.g. when using a > temporary dual screen setup, or sharing ~/.gitk between multiple > systems. Additionally it can be argued that window placement and sizing > are the tasks of the window manager. So don't do that anymore. Shouldn't the restoring code also be dropped then? Other than that, I agree. The Gitk current behaviour wrt dual screens is really inconvenient. -- robin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-23 12:52 ` Robin Rosenberg @ 2008-02-23 13:15 ` Jonathan del Strother 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Jonathan del Strother @ 2008-02-23 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robin Rosenberg; +Cc: Gerrit Pape, git, Paul Mackerras On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> wrote: > lördagen den 23 februari 2008 skrev Gerrit Pape: > > > Saving the geometry can cause several inconveniences, e.g. when using a > > temporary dual screen setup, or sharing ~/.gitk between multiple > > systems. Additionally it can be argued that window placement and sizing > > are the tasks of the window manager. So don't do that anymore. > > Shouldn't the restoring code also be dropped then? Perhaps, though that would prevent you setting up default width & height. You'd always be stuck with the (too small IMO) original window size ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-23 11:37 ` [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit Gerrit Pape 2008-02-23 12:52 ` Robin Rosenberg @ 2008-02-23 22:49 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-24 15:44 ` Mark Levedahl ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Paul Mackerras @ 2008-02-23 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gerrit Pape; +Cc: git, Mark Levedahl Gerrit Pape writes: > Saving the geometry can cause several inconveniences, e.g. when using a > temporary dual screen setup, or sharing ~/.gitk between multiple > systems. Additionally it can be argued that window placement and sizing > are the tasks of the window manager. So don't do that anymore. I myself find it useful to have gitk remember the size and layout of the various panes, so I won't be applying this patch. The saving/restoring of the window position was done by Mark Levedahl to make gitk work properly on Cygwin. I agree it can be annoying on X and I would take a patch to inhibit the restoring of the window position when running under X. I'd want an ack from Mark before making that change more generally. Paul. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-23 22:49 ` Paul Mackerras @ 2008-02-24 15:44 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-02-24 18:21 ` Edgar Toernig 2008-03-06 12:17 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-25 8:07 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-26 2:15 ` A Large Angry SCM 2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Mark Levedahl @ 2008-02-24 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras; +Cc: Gerrit Pape, git Paul Mackerras wrote: > Gerrit Pape writes: > > >> Saving the geometry can cause several inconveniences, e.g. when using a >> temporary dual screen setup, or sharing ~/.gitk between multiple >> systems. Additionally it can be argued that window placement and sizing >> are the tasks of the window manager. So don't do that anymore. >> > > I myself find it useful to have gitk remember the size and layout of > the various panes, so I won't be applying this patch. > > The saving/restoring of the window position was done by Mark Levedahl > to make gitk work properly on Cygwin. I agree it can be annoying on X > and I would take a patch to inhibit the restoring of the window > position when running under X. I'd want an ack from Mark before > making that change more generally. > > Paul. > > I can only offer to test the proposed patch, I am unable to predict what will or won't trip up the buggy geometry engine in Cygwin's Tk. I do remember I had trouble finding a way to restore the size but not the position of the main window on Cygwin: that doesn't mean it can't be done (logically, it should be easy), just that I didn't find the right spell or incantation that would work. I'll also admit to not having tried after I got to a completely working geometry solution, so perhaps just restoring the size without position will now work on Cygwin. Using the saved panel sizes in conjunction with the default window size yields an unusable screen: many elements are obscured. The same occurs using the defaults altogether: either way the user must resize and adjust things to get to a workable layout. So, I am very opposed to disabling the memory altogether. Also, I have a number of X apps that remember their layout, so gitk's current behavior is not (at least to me) an aberration and I would like that behavior to at least remain an option. Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-24 15:44 ` Mark Levedahl @ 2008-02-24 18:21 ` Edgar Toernig 2008-03-06 12:17 ` Paul Mackerras 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Edgar Toernig @ 2008-02-24 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark Levedahl; +Cc: Paul Mackerras, Gerrit Pape, git Mark Levedahl wrote: > > [...] so gitk's current behavior is not (at least to me) an aberration > and I would like that behavior to at least remain an option. It would be really annoying if I had to resize and reconfigure (the panes) each time I start gitk. How about only taking the saved geometry/fonts/etc when the screen size hasn't changed? The easiest method (for a Tcl-noob like me) would be to wrap the "set geometry..." in .gitk with an if-statement which checks the screen size. Something like this: diff --git a/gitk-git/gitk b/gitk-git/gitk index 5560e4d..1c572c9 100644 --- a/gitk-git/gitk +++ b/gitk-git/gitk @@ -1158,14 +1158,12 @@ proc savestuff {w} { global viewname viewfiles viewargs viewperm nextviewnum global cmitmode wrapcomment datetimeformat limitdiffs global colors bgcolor fgcolor diffcolors diffcontext selectbgcolor + global screen_size if {$stuffsaved} return if {![winfo viewable .]} return catch { set f [open "~/.gitk-new" w] - puts $f [list set mainfont $mainfont] - puts $f [list set textfont $textfont] - puts $f [list set uifont $uifont] puts $f [list set tabstop $tabstop] puts $f [list set findmergefiles $findmergefiles] puts $f [list set maxgraphpct $maxgraphpct] @@ -1183,6 +1181,10 @@ proc savestuff {w} { puts $f [list set diffcontext $diffcontext] puts $f [list set selectbgcolor $selectbgcolor] + puts $f "if {\$screen_size == \"$screen_size\"} {" + puts $f [list set mainfont $mainfont] + puts $f [list set textfont $textfont] + puts $f [list set uifont $uifont] puts $f "set geometry(main) [wm geometry .]" puts $f "set geometry(topwidth) [winfo width .tf]" puts $f "set geometry(topheight) [winfo height .tf]" @@ -1198,6 +1200,7 @@ proc savestuff {w} { } } puts $f "}" + puts $f "}" close $f file rename -force "~/.gitk-new" "~/.gitk" } @@ -8461,6 +8464,8 @@ set diffcolors {red "#00a000" blue} set diffcontext 3 set selectbgcolor gray85 +set screen_size [winfo screenwidth .]x[winfo screenheight .] + ## For msgcat loading, first locate the installation location. if { [info exists ::env(GITK_MSGSDIR)] } { ## Msgsdir was manually set in the environment. Saving geometries for multiple screen sizes would be even better (i.e. geometry_1440x900(main) etc or an additional ".gitk-$screen_size" for the geometry data) but that is beyond my Tcl-skills. Ciao, ET. ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-24 15:44 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-02-24 18:21 ` Edgar Toernig @ 2008-03-06 12:17 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-06 12:59 ` Jonathan del Strother ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Paul Mackerras @ 2008-03-06 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark Levedahl; +Cc: Gerrit Pape, git Mark Levedahl writes: > I can only offer to test the proposed patch, I am unable to predict what > will or won't trip up the buggy geometry engine in Cygwin's Tk. I do > remember I had trouble finding a way to restore the size but not the > position of the main window on Cygwin: that doesn't mean it can't be > done (logically, it should be easy), just that I didn't find the right > spell or incantation that would work. I'll also admit to not having > tried after I got to a completely working geometry solution, so perhaps > just restoring the size without position will now work on Cygwin. > > Using the saved panel sizes in conjunction with the default window size > yields an unusable screen: many elements are obscured. The same occurs > using the defaults altogether: either way the user must resize and > adjust things to get to a workable layout. So, I am very opposed to > disabling the memory altogether. Also, I have a number of X apps that > remember their layout, so gitk's current behavior is not (at least to > me) an aberration and I would like that behavior to at least remain an > option. Here's a patch for people to test. It only restores the width and height, and limits the width and height to be at most the width and height of the screen. It seems to work fine under X; I would be interested to know what happens under macos and windows. Paul. --- diff --git a/gitk b/gitk index f1f21e9..f8f006f 100755 --- a/gitk +++ b/gitk @@ -930,9 +930,17 @@ proc makewindow {} { .pwbottom add .bright .ctop add .pwbottom - # restore window position if known + # restore window width & height if known if {[info exists geometry(main)]} { - wm geometry . "$geometry(main)" + if {[scan $geometry(main) "%dx%d" w h] >= 2} { + if {$w > [winfo screenwidth .]} { + set w [winfo screenwidth .] + } + if {$h > [winfo screenheight .]} { + set h [winfo screenheight .] + } + wm geometry . "${w}x$h" + } } if {[tk windowingsystem] eq {aqua}} { ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-03-06 12:17 ` Paul Mackerras @ 2008-03-06 12:59 ` Jonathan del Strother 2008-03-06 23:10 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-07 3:03 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-03-07 11:11 ` martin f krafft 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Jonathan del Strother @ 2008-03-06 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras; +Cc: Mark Levedahl, Gerrit Pape, git On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote: > Mark Levedahl writes: > > > I can only offer to test the proposed patch, I am unable to predict what > > will or won't trip up the buggy geometry engine in Cygwin's Tk. I do > > remember I had trouble finding a way to restore the size but not the > > position of the main window on Cygwin: that doesn't mean it can't be > > done (logically, it should be easy), just that I didn't find the right > > spell or incantation that would work. I'll also admit to not having > > tried after I got to a completely working geometry solution, so perhaps > > just restoring the size without position will now work on Cygwin. > > > > Using the saved panel sizes in conjunction with the default window size > > yields an unusable screen: many elements are obscured. The same occurs > > using the defaults altogether: either way the user must resize and > > adjust things to get to a workable layout. So, I am very opposed to > > disabling the memory altogether. Also, I have a number of X apps that > > remember their layout, so gitk's current behavior is not (at least to > > me) an aberration and I would like that behavior to at least remain an > > option. > > Here's a patch for people to test. It only restores the width and > height, and limits the width and height to be at most the width and > height of the screen. It seems to work fine under X; I would be > interested to know what happens under macos and windows. > > Paul. > --- > diff --git a/gitk b/gitk > index f1f21e9..f8f006f 100755 > --- a/gitk > +++ b/gitk > @@ -930,9 +930,17 @@ proc makewindow {} { > .pwbottom add .bright > .ctop add .pwbottom > > - # restore window position if known > + # restore window width & height if known > if {[info exists geometry(main)]} { > - wm geometry . "$geometry(main)" > + if {[scan $geometry(main) "%dx%d" w h] >= 2} { > + if {$w > [winfo screenwidth .]} { > + set w [winfo screenwidth .] > + } > + if {$h > [winfo screenheight .]} { > + set h [winfo screenheight .] > + } > + wm geometry . "${w}x$h" > + } > } > > if {[tk windowingsystem] eq {aqua}} { > > -- > This almost works on OS X. The only problem is that it's not taking into account menubars and windowbars. eg, if I have a screen resolution of 640x480, setting the window _content_ to that size will make the entire window including its titlebar about 500px tall. Not only that, but the system-wide menubar at the top of the screen also reduces the available space, meaning that the maximum window size ought to be around 640x456. (If you wanted to get even pickier, that will changing depending on the interface resolution...) Presumably your patch does nothing to move gitk back on screen if the monitor it was on last time has gone away? Or are we still blaming the window manager for that? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-03-06 12:59 ` Jonathan del Strother @ 2008-03-06 23:10 ` Paul Mackerras 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Paul Mackerras @ 2008-03-06 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jonathan del Strother; +Cc: Mark Levedahl, Gerrit Pape, git Jonathan del Strother writes: > This almost works on OS X. The only problem is that it's not taking > into account menubars and windowbars. eg, if I have a screen > resolution of 640x480, setting the window _content_ to that size will > make the entire window including its titlebar about 500px tall. Not > only that, but the system-wide menubar at the top of the screen also > reduces the available space, meaning that the maximum window size > ought to be around 640x456. (If you wanted to get even pickier, that > will changing depending on the interface resolution...) Do you know of any way for an application to determine how big it can be, then? > Presumably your patch does nothing to move gitk back on screen if the > monitor it was on last time has gone away? Or are we still blaming > the window manager for that? With the patch it no longer specifies a position, so yes we blame the window manager now if it doesn't put the window somewhere visible. :) Paul. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-03-06 12:17 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-06 12:59 ` Jonathan del Strother @ 2008-03-07 3:03 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-03-07 11:11 ` martin f krafft 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Mark Levedahl @ 2008-03-07 3:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras; +Cc: Gerrit Pape, git Paul Mackerras wrote: > Here's a patch for people to test. It only restores the width and > height, and limits the width and height to be at most the width and > height of the screen. It seems to work fine under X; I would be > interested to know what happens under macos and windows. > > Paul. > --- > diff --git a/gitk b/gitk > index f1f21e9..f8f006f 100755 > --- a/gitk > +++ b/gitk > @@ -930,9 +930,17 @@ proc makewindow {} { > .pwbottom add .bright > .ctop add .pwbottom > > - # restore window position if known > + # restore window width & height if known > if {[info exists geometry(main)]} { > - wm geometry . "$geometry(main)" > + if {[scan $geometry(main) "%dx%d" w h] >= 2} { > + if {$w > [winfo screenwidth .]} { > + set w [winfo screenwidth .] > + } > + if {$h > [winfo screenheight .]} { > + set h [winfo screenheight .] > + } > + wm geometry . "${w}x$h" > + } > } > > if {[tk windowingsystem] eq {aqua}} { > This works fine on Cygwin: the size restores properly across sessions, the window and widgets all behave as expected. So, you can add a "Tested-by: Mark Levedahl <mlevedahl@gmail.com" if you wish to this. Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-03-06 12:17 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-06 12:59 ` Jonathan del Strother 2008-03-07 3:03 ` Mark Levedahl @ 2008-03-07 11:11 ` martin f krafft 2008-03-08 11:11 ` Paul Mackerras 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: martin f krafft @ 2008-03-07 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras; +Cc: Mark Levedahl, Gerrit Pape, git, 442253-quiet [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1370 bytes --] also sprach Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> [2008.03.06.1317 +0100]: > Here's a patch for people to test. It only restores the width and > height, and limits the width and height to be at most the width and > height of the screen. It seems to work fine under X; I would be > interested to know what happens under macos and windows. I can confirm that the behaviour is much better: the window size is restored, as is the position, but it gives preference to the Xinerama head. You'd think it restores at the same *relative* position on the current head, but it actually just restores somewhere — I cannot figure out the behaviour. However, I still wonder why we have to do this at all. I understand that Cygwin has issues and needs this code, but couldn't it then be made to run only on Cygwin, such that on "proper" Unix systems, the config file is *not* updated every time I move the window before closing the application? As I said earlier, this is really the job of a window manager, *not* a configuration option. If your window manager cannot restore the window to a size you control, then it's broken. Let's not hack applications to work around that, please. -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ $complex->{'data'}[$structures][$in_perl] = @{$can{'be'}->[$painful]}; spamtraps: madduck.bogus@madduck.net [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/) --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-03-07 11:11 ` martin f krafft @ 2008-03-08 11:11 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-10 11:29 ` martin f krafft 2008-03-10 13:17 ` David Tweed 0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Paul Mackerras @ 2008-03-08 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: martin f krafft; +Cc: Mark Levedahl, Gerrit Pape, git, 442253-quiet martin f krafft writes: > I can confirm that the behaviour is much better: the window size is > restored, as is the position, but it gives preference to the > Xinerama head. You'd think it restores at the same *relative* > position on the current head, but it actually just restores > somewhere ^[$,1rt^[(B I cannot figure out the behaviour. The position is entirely up to your window manager. > However, I still wonder why we have to do this at all. Well, try it without... :) Restoring the overall window size and the positions of the sashes of the panedwindows is the simplest and most reliable method I have found for making the window come back the way the user last set it. > I understand > that Cygwin has issues and needs this code, but couldn't it then be > made to run only on Cygwin, such that on "proper" Unix systems, the > config file is *not* updated every time I move the window before > closing the application? What's the issue with updating the config file? > As I said earlier, this is really the job > of a window manager, *not* a configuration option. If your window > manager cannot restore the window to a size you control, then it's > broken. Let's not hack applications to work around that, please. I disagree. It's not a window manager's job to tell an application how big its window should be. Paul. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-03-08 11:11 ` Paul Mackerras @ 2008-03-10 11:29 ` martin f krafft 2008-03-10 13:17 ` David Tweed 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: martin f krafft @ 2008-03-10 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras, Mark Levedahl, Gerrit Pape, git, 442253-quiet [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1439 bytes --] also sprach Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> [2008.03.08.1211 +0100]: > > I understand that Cygwin has issues and needs this code, but > > couldn't it then be made to run only on Cygwin, such that on > > "proper" Unix systems, the config file is *not* updated every > > time I move the window before closing the application? > > What's the issue with updating the config file? Conflicts when synchronising the files between different machines, or the need for a custom merge driver just for .gitkrc files. > > As I said earlier, this is really the job of a window manager, > > *not* a configuration option. If your window manager cannot > > restore the window to a size you control, then it's broken. > > Let's not hack applications to work around that, please. > > I disagree. It's not a window manager's job to tell an > application how big its window should be. I always assumed it was: position and geometry. However, I am starting to see your point. I guess the best way would be a checkbox with which I can disable the saving of the geometry on application close, possibly paired with a button "save now". -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ an egg has the shortest sex-life of all: if gets laid once; it gets eaten once. it also has to come in a box with 11 others, and the only person who will sit on its face is its mother. spamtraps: madduck.bogus@madduck.net [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/) --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-03-08 11:11 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-10 11:29 ` martin f krafft @ 2008-03-10 13:17 ` David Tweed 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: David Tweed @ 2008-03-10 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras Cc: martin f krafft, Mark Levedahl, Gerrit Pape, git, 442253-quiet 2008/3/8 Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>: > > As I said earlier, this is really the job > > of a window manager, *not* a configuration option. If your window > > manager cannot restore the window to a size you control, then it's > > broken. Let's not hack applications to work around that, please. > > I disagree. It's not a window manager's job to tell an application > how big its window should be. There are some modestly popular tiling window managers that attempt to remove the bother of having to manually move windows around which take the view that the window manager's decisions should only be overruled in the very rare cases where it's absolutely necessary, eg, Ion http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ dwm http://www.suckless.org/wiki/dwm (The major windows that don't resize well are from image based programs where you want exactly the underlying image on your display. Text based programs like gitk work great under autoresizing.) However, the current gitk appears to work fine on those window managers because the internal dividers get automtatically resized whenever the global window resizes, and the wm resizes the window so quickly after creation I don't have time to notice it. -- cheers, dave tweed__________________________ david.tweed@gmail.com Rm 124, School of Systems Engineering, University of Reading. "while having code so boring anyone can maintain it, use Python." -- attempted insult seen on slashdot ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-23 22:49 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-24 15:44 ` Mark Levedahl @ 2008-02-25 8:07 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-25 12:09 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-26 2:15 ` A Large Angry SCM 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: martin f krafft @ 2008-02-25 8:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras; +Cc: Gerrit Pape, git, Mark Levedahl [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1311 bytes --] also sprach Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> [2008.02.23.2349 +0100]: > > Saving the geometry can cause several inconveniences, e.g. when > > using a temporary dual screen setup, or sharing ~/.gitk between > > multiple systems. Additionally it can be argued that window > > placement and sizing are the tasks of the window manager. So > > don't do that anymore. > > I myself find it useful to have gitk remember the size and layout > of the various panes, so I won't be applying this patch. > > The saving/restoring of the window position was done by Mark > Levedahl to make gitk work properly on Cygwin. I agree it can be > annoying on X and I would take a patch to inhibit the restoring of > the window position when running under X. I'd want an ack from > Mark before making that change more generally. May I suggest that such a patch actually disables writing of the config file, so that we won't get conflicts every time you sync config files via home-in-git? Of course I offer to look into this once Mark approves. -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ "if there's anything more important than my ego, i want it caught and shot now." -- zaphod beeblebrox spamtraps: madduck.bogus@madduck.net [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/) --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-25 8:07 ` martin f krafft @ 2008-02-25 12:09 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-25 12:24 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-25 13:35 ` Mark Levedahl 0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Paul Mackerras @ 2008-02-25 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: martin f krafft; +Cc: Gerrit Pape, git, Mark Levedahl martin f krafft writes: > May I suggest that such a patch actually disables writing of the > config file, so that we won't get conflicts every time you sync > config files via home-in-git? Then various other bits of config won't be persistent, such as font settings. So I don't think that's a good idea. It would be possible to make the config file be per-repository rather than global, I guess, if that is something people want. I personally would find it annoying to have to change the font separately in each repository, but tastes differ, I guess. Paul. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-25 12:09 ` Paul Mackerras @ 2008-02-25 12:24 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-25 13:35 ` Mark Levedahl 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: martin f krafft @ 2008-02-25 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras, Gerrit Pape, git, Mark Levedahl [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 479 bytes --] also sprach Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> [2008.02.25.1309 +0100]: > Then various other bits of config won't be persistent, such as font > settings. So I don't think that's a good idea. Huh? I use the same font on all machines, but the screen resolutions differ... -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ time wounds all heels. -- groucho marx spamtraps: madduck.bogus@madduck.net [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/) --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-25 12:09 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-25 12:24 ` martin f krafft @ 2008-02-25 13:35 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-02-25 14:15 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-25 19:59 ` Martin Langhoff 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Mark Levedahl @ 2008-02-25 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras; +Cc: martin f krafft, Gerrit Pape, git On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote: > martin f krafft writes: > > > May I suggest that such a patch actually disables writing of the > > config file, so that we won't get conflicts every time you sync > > config files via home-in-git? > > Then various other bits of config won't be persistent, such as font > settings. So I don't think that's a good idea. > > It would be possible to make the config file be per-repository rather > than global, I guess, if that is something people want. I personally > would find it annoying to have to change the font separately in each > repository, but tastes differ, I guess. > > Paul. > Two things we could do: 1) Add a "save config now" button and a "save config on exit" checkbox/option to the options dialog. 2) Perform a screen geometry check at load time to see if the corners of the main window would be visible before applying the main window geometry. Mark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-25 13:35 ` Mark Levedahl @ 2008-02-25 14:15 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-25 19:59 ` Martin Langhoff 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: martin f krafft @ 2008-02-25 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark Levedahl, Paul Mackerras, Gerrit Pape, git [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 785 bytes --] also sprach Mark Levedahl <mlevedahl@gmail.com> [2008.02.25.1435 +0100]: > 1) Add a "save config now" button and a "save config on exit" > checkbox/option to the options dialog. and a checkbox like "disable writing window geometry data to the configuration file" > 2) Perform a screen geometry check at load time to see if the corners > of the main window would be visible before applying the main window > geometry. I don't see the benefit of this. I really rather believe that window geometry is the job of the window manager. If Cygwin needs it, then maybe it could be conditionally compiled on that platform. -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ quantum mechanics: the dreams stuff is made of. spamtraps: madduck.bogus@madduck.net [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/) --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-25 13:35 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-02-25 14:15 ` martin f krafft @ 2008-02-25 19:59 ` Martin Langhoff 2008-02-25 23:08 ` Robin Rosenberg 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Martin Langhoff @ 2008-02-25 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark Levedahl; +Cc: Paul Mackerras, martin f krafft, Gerrit Pape, git On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:35 AM, Mark Levedahl <mlevedahl@gmail.com> wrote: > 2) Perform a screen geometry check at load time to see if the corners > of the main window would be visible before applying the main window > geometry. As a multi-screen-layouts, multi-machine user, this approach has my vote. I see a proto-patch from Edgar too. Even if the wm has similar capabilities, those will be limited to main window geometry, not inner-panel geometry so this is still useful. cheers, m ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-25 19:59 ` Martin Langhoff @ 2008-02-25 23:08 ` Robin Rosenberg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Robin Rosenberg @ 2008-02-25 23:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Langhoff Cc: Mark Levedahl, Paul Mackerras, martin f krafft, Gerrit Pape, git måndagen den 25 februari 2008 skrev Martin Langhoff: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:35 AM, Mark Levedahl <mlevedahl@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2) Perform a screen geometry check at load time to see if the corners > > of the main window would be visible before applying the main window > > geometry. > > As a multi-screen-layouts, multi-machine user, this approach has my > vote. I see a proto-patch from Edgar too. Even if the wm has similar > capabilities, those will be limited to main window geometry, not > inner-panel geometry so this is still useful. The annoying part is that it remembers the position. Remembering siz I can live with, but I don't want it popping up the wrong screen. -- robin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit 2008-02-23 22:49 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-24 15:44 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-02-25 8:07 ` martin f krafft @ 2008-02-26 2:15 ` A Large Angry SCM 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: A Large Angry SCM @ 2008-02-26 2:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mackerras; +Cc: Gerrit Pape, git, Mark Levedahl Paul Mackerras wrote: > Gerrit Pape writes: > >> Saving the geometry can cause several inconveniences, e.g. when using a >> temporary dual screen setup, or sharing ~/.gitk between multiple >> systems. Additionally it can be argued that window placement and sizing >> are the tasks of the window manager. So don't do that anymore. > > I myself find it useful to have gitk remember the size and layout of > the various panes, so I won't be applying this patch. > > The saving/restoring of the window position was done by Mark Levedahl > to make gitk work properly on Cygwin. I agree it can be annoying on X > and I would take a patch to inhibit the restoring of the window > position when running under X. I'd want an ack from Mark before > making that change more generally. I use gitk under X and like the saving/restoring of window size/geometry. Please do not remove that feature. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2008-03-10 13:19 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 26+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2008-02-07 6:16 Bug in gitk - can post the window off screen Tommy Thorn 2008-02-07 6:30 ` Shawn O. Pearce 2008-02-07 9:56 ` Robin Rosenberg 2008-02-07 10:10 ` Gerrit Pape 2008-02-23 11:37 ` [PATCH] gitk: don't save the geometry to rc file on exit Gerrit Pape 2008-02-23 12:52 ` Robin Rosenberg 2008-02-23 13:15 ` Jonathan del Strother 2008-02-23 22:49 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-24 15:44 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-02-24 18:21 ` Edgar Toernig 2008-03-06 12:17 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-06 12:59 ` Jonathan del Strother 2008-03-06 23:10 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-07 3:03 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-03-07 11:11 ` martin f krafft 2008-03-08 11:11 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-03-10 11:29 ` martin f krafft 2008-03-10 13:17 ` David Tweed 2008-02-25 8:07 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-25 12:09 ` Paul Mackerras 2008-02-25 12:24 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-25 13:35 ` Mark Levedahl 2008-02-25 14:15 ` martin f krafft 2008-02-25 19:59 ` Martin Langhoff 2008-02-25 23:08 ` Robin Rosenberg 2008-02-26 2:15 ` A Large Angry SCM
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