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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>,
	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
	sverre@rabbelier.nl, git@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	david@lang.hm, Stephen Clark <sclark46@earthlink.net>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, jeff@garzik.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:16:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080417201657.GF27459@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0804171235o49238b99u6cdbd3e5c8d6ebb7@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:35:12PM -0700, Ray Lee wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> >  > Finger-pointing, in these extreme cases, gives incentive to improve
> >  > quality.  It's a positive thing.
> >
> >  Sorry, but I have to disagree.  Negative finger-pointing is never a good thing.
> 
> Correct, but let's be careful here. The original suggestion was,
> effectively, to get better metrics on the quality of contributions.

	There already is one: reputation with people working on the tree,
be it actively modifying/reviewing/bug hunting/etc.  _We_ _already_ _know_;
generally one gets a decent idea of what to expect pretty soon.

	And frankly, that's the only thing that matters anyway; I suspect
I'd do rather well by proposed criteria, but you know what?  I don't give
a flying f*ck through the rolling doughnut for self-appointed PHBs and
their idea of performance reviews.

	Think of it as a modified Turing test: convince me that you are
not a script piped through an Eng.Lit. wanker or an MBA, then I might care
for your opinion.

	Al, who never had problems with pointing fingers and laughing, but
likes an informed human brain to be the source of it...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-17 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2008-04-13 23:51           ` Reporting bugs and bisection david
2008-04-14  0:36             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-14  4:39             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14  5:39               ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  6:24                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14  6:39                   ` David Miller
2008-04-14  6:43                     ` David Miller
2008-04-14  7:23                   ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  7:43                     ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  8:04                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14  8:30                       ` David Miller
2008-04-14  9:06                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-14  9:46                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15  5:25                           ` Bill Fink
2008-04-14 10:15                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 10:41                           ` David Miller
2008-04-14 17:35                             ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-04-14 12:08                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 14:43                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 17:51                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 18:24                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 19:30                           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-14 15:54                     ` James Morris
2008-04-14 22:01                       ` David Miller
2008-04-14 23:05                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15  4:55                           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-15 13:18                             ` Work WAS(Re: " jamal
2008-04-15  9:33                       ` David Newall
2008-04-15  9:54                         ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-04-15 14:04                           ` David Newall
2008-04-15 20:51                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16  2:34                               ` David Newall
2008-04-16  3:53                                 ` david
2008-04-16  9:06                                   ` David Newall
2008-04-16 11:02                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-16 12:41                                   ` Stephen Clark
2008-04-16  4:29                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 12:13                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 12:15                         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 13:26                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:02                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-16 19:43                               ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 19:55                               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-17 13:50                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-17 15:26                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:58                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-16 20:01                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 19:39                             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 20:16                               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:53                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 21:05                                   ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 21:25                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:04                             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 20:55                               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 21:17                           ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-17 17:04                             ` David Newall
2008-04-17 19:09                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-17 19:35                                 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 19:57                                   ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-17 20:16                                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2008-04-17 20:38                                     ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 20:53                                       ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 21:01                                         ` Ray Lee
2008-04-14 19:13                   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 20:38                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 22:18                       ` Rene Herman

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