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From: Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com>
To: "Avery Pennarun" <apenwarr@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ittay Dror" <ittayd@tikalk.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: merge renamed files/directories?
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 23:49:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200805052349.35867.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32541b130805050940x1297e907ofc67ee65494897eb@mail.gmail.com>

måndagen den 5 maj 2008 18.40.24 skrev Avery Pennarun:
> On 5/4/08, Ittay Dror <ittayd@tikalk.com> wrote:
> >  Avery Pennarun wrote:
> > > In fact, as someone else pointed out, renaming a java file requires
> > > you to modify the file anyhow, so having git auto-move the file to
> > > another directory *still* wouldn't make it work any better.
> >
> > Sure it will, because otherwise I need to move it and still need to fix
> > it. And there are many other file formats and languages where such a move
> > will not require any change (I think it is funny that Java is a
> > justification for not doing something for a tool primarily used by C
> > people).
>
> I mentioned Java because you mentioned you were working in java.
>
> The particular problem with Java doesn't happen to C people.  Imagine,
> for example, that I add a new file, lib/foo.c, to lib/lib.a (thus they
> have to modify lib/Makefile), while someone else renames "lib" to
> "bettername".
>
> When I merge, if git would create bettername/foo.c (it currently
> won't) and properly automerge bettername/Makefile (it will), then the
> program would still compile correctly.  However this doesn't work in
> Java: lib/foo.java would include the word "lib" in its contents (in
> the namespace declaration) and so there's no way automatic merging
> would have resulted in a version that compiles correctly.

You will always find corner cases. Line-by line merge happens to
work, not because it is the theoretically correct way, but because we
have discovered that it nearly always works so our need for more
specialized merging is not huge. We have also adapted our development
practices to the way line-by-line merging works, i.e. we avoid binary
files and funny text file formats.

> So what I said isn't to *justify* git's behaviour, merely to point out
> that in java's case, there seems to be no way to get fully automatic
> merging that would work.  In C, this case would have worked, if only
> git supported directory renames.

Sure, a merge that understands this is java and does the correct thing. Evn
your case for C (with hypotetical directory rename detection) would fail if 
the renamed directory was used in an #include-statement (like #include 
<lib/foo.h>) Say someone thinks xxdiff should move to lib/xxdiff, while 
someone else adds a new reference to <xxdiff/xxdiff.h>. To resolve all cases 
you must have tools that understand what they are doing. Directyry rename
detection only solves a few cases, but it may be easy enough to implement to 
warrant the effort to get the tick in the box.

>
> In neither case is it very much work to fix by hand, though :),

I agree on that.

-- robin

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-05 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-01 14:10 detecting rename->commit->modify->commit Ittay Dror
2008-05-01 14:45 ` Jeff King
2008-05-01 15:08   ` Ittay Dror
2008-05-01 15:20     ` Jeff King
2008-05-01 15:30       ` Ittay Dror
2008-05-01 15:38         ` Jeff King
2008-05-01 15:47         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-05-01 20:39       ` Teemu Likonen
2008-05-01 23:09         ` Jeff King
2008-05-02  2:06         ` Sitaram Chamarty
2008-05-02  2:38           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-02 16:59             ` Sitaram Chamarty
2008-05-01 15:24     ` Ittay Dror
2008-05-01 15:28       ` Jeff King
2008-05-01 14:54 ` Ittay Dror
2008-05-01 15:09   ` Jeff King
2008-05-01 15:20     ` Ittay Dror
2008-05-01 15:30     ` David Tweed
2008-05-01 15:27   ` Avery Pennarun
2008-05-01 15:34     ` Jeff King
2008-05-01 15:50       ` Avery Pennarun
2008-05-01 16:48         ` Jeff King
2008-05-01 19:45           ` Avery Pennarun
2008-05-01 22:42             ` Jeff King
2008-05-01 19:12       ` Steven Grimm
2008-05-01 23:14         ` Jeff King
2008-05-03 17:56           ` merge renamed files/directories? (was: Re: detecting rename->commit->modify->commit) Ittay Dror
2008-05-03 18:11             ` Avery Pennarun
2008-05-04  6:08               ` merge renamed files/directories? Ittay Dror
2008-05-04  9:34                 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-05-05 16:40                 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-05-05 21:49                   ` Robin Rosenberg [this message]
2008-05-05 22:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-05 23:07                       ` Steven Grimm
2008-05-06  0:29                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06  0:40                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06 15:47                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-06 16:10                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06 16:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06 16:32                               ` Ittay Dror
2008-05-06 16:39                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06  1:38                       ` Avery Pennarun
2008-05-06  1:46                         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-05-06  1:58                           ` Avery Pennarun
2008-05-06  2:12                             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-05-06  2:19                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 18:17           ` detecting rename->commit->modify->commit Jeff King
2008-05-01 16:39   ` Sitaram Chamarty
2008-05-01 18:58     ` Ittay Dror

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