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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>
Cc: Lea Wiemann <lewiemann@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, John Hawley <warthog19@eaglescrag.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] add new Git::Repo API
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:41:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200807150141.39186.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080714014051.GK10151@machine.or.cz>

On Mon, 14 July 2008, Petr Baudis wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 03:11:05AM +0200, Lea Wiemann wrote:
> >
> > This also adds the Git::Commit and Git::Tag classes, which are used by
> > Git::Repo, the Git::Object base class, and the Git::RepoRoot helper
> > factory class.
> 
> I really miss some more detailed writeup on the envisioned design here.
> And if we are redoing the API in a better way, we better should have
> some vision.

Once again: if you are adding some large amount of code, you'd better
describe "whys" of it.

> Most importantly, how is Git::Repo interacting with working copies, and
> how is it going to interact with them as the new OO model shapes up?
> You mention briefly Git::WC later, but it is not really clear how the
> interaction should work.
> 
> 
> First, I don't think it's good idea at all to put the pipe-related stuff
> to Git::Repo - this is botched up API just like the current one. This
> all is independent from any repository instances, in fact it's perfectly
> valid to call standalone remote commands (like ls-remote or, actually,
> clone).

There are three classes of git commands: 

 1. standalone i.e. those that doesn't require even repository, like
    e.g. git-ls-remote, git-clone or git-init (or git wrapper, like
    for example in "git --version").
 2. those that require repository (and should use --git-dir=<path>),
    like for example git-cat-file, git-log / git-rev-list,
    git-for-each-ref / git-show-refs, git-diff-tree, git-ls-tree;
 3. those that require both repository and working copy (and should
    probably use both --git-dir=<path> and --work-tree=<path>), like
    git-commit, git-clean, git-ls-files (the last one can require
    only index).
 3'. those that require both repository and working copy, and whose
    behavior depends on where in working copy we (current directory)
    is[*1*].

*All* git commands should know path to "git" wrapper binary, or where
$GIT_EXEC_PATH is.


[*1*] It is (besides pointer to Git::Repo instance) what Git::WC
differs from simple directory: the pointer where we are, and
wc_path(), wc_subdir(), [wc_cdup(),] and wc_chdir(<SUBDIR>) methods.

> Here is an idea: Introduce Git::Command object that will have very
> general interface and look like
> 
> 	my $c = Git::Command->new(['git', '--git-dir=.', 'cat-file', \
> 		'-p', 'bla'], {pipe_out=>1})
> 	...
> 	$c->close();

Errr... how do you read from such a pipe?  <$c> I think wouldn't work,
unless you would use some trickery...
 
> and a Git::CommandFactory with a nicer interface that would look like
> 
> 	my $cf = Git::CommandFactory->new('git', '--git-dir=.');
> 	my $c = $cf->output_pipe('cat-file', '-p', 'bla');
> 	$c->close();
> 
> Then, Git::Repo would have a single Git::CommandFactory instance
> pre-initialized with the required calling convention, and returned by
> e.g. cmd() method. Then, from the user POV, you would just:
> 
> 	my $repo = Git::Repo->new;
> 	$repo->cmd->output_pipe('cat-file', '-p', 'bla');
> 
> Or am I overdoing it?

You are probably overdoing it.


I think it would be good to have the following interface

Git->output_pipe('ls-remotes', $URL, '--heads');
[...]
$r = Git::Repo->new(<git_dir>);
$r->output_pipe('ls_tree', 'HEAD');
[...]
$nb = Git::Repo::NonBare->new(<git_dir>[, <working_area>]);
$nb->output_pipe('ls-files');


How can it be done with minimal effort, unfortunately I don't know...

> Git::Repo considers only bare repositories. Now, since "working copy" by
> itself has nothing to do with Git and is just an ordinary directory
> tree,

Well, it does provide also current subdir pointer, pointer to git
repository it is associated with, and a few methods to examine and
change both.

> I think Git::WC does not make that much sense, but something like 
> Git::Repo::Nonbare certainly would. This would be a Git::Repo subclass
> with:
> 
> 	* Different constructor
> 
> 	* Different Git::CommandFactory instance
> 
> 	* Git::Index object aside the existing ones (like Git::Config,
> 	  Git::RefTree, ...)
> 
> 	* Some kind of wc_root() method to help directory navigation
> 
> And that pretty much covers it?

Good idea, I think.


> Another thing is clearly describing how error handling is going to work.
> I have not much against ditching Error.pm, but just saying "die + eval"
> does not cut it - how about possible sideband data? E.g. the failure
> mode of Git.pm's command() method includes passing the error'd command
> output in the exception object. How are we going to handle it? Now, it
> might be actually okay to say that we _aren't_ going to handle this if
> it is deemed unuseful, but that needs to be determined too. I don't know
> off the top of my head.

I think that the solution might be some output_pipe option on how to
treat command exit status, command STDERR, and errors when invoking
command (for example command not found).

Mentioned http://http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2002/11/14/exception.html
explains why one might want to use Error.pm.


> > ---
> >
> > Please note before starting a reply to this: This is not an argument;
> > I'm just explaining why I implemented it the way I did.  So please
> > don't try to argue with me about what I should or should have done.
> > I'm not going to refactor Git::Repo to use Git.pm or vice versa; it's
> > really a much more non-trivial task than you might think at first
> > glance.
[...]
 
> I agree that your main objective is caching for gitweb, but that's not
> what everything revolves around for the rest of us. If you chose the way
> of caching within the Git API and introducing the API to gitweb, I think
> you should spend the effort to deal with the API properly now.

I think the idea is that gitweb caching as it is implemented (data
caching) requires some kind of Perl API, and that existing Git.pm
didn't cut -- therefore Git::Repo and friends was created.  But the
focus is gitweb caching, not Perl API (besides Perl API having to
be usable).

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-14 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-11  1:06 [PATCH 0/3] Git::Repo API and gitweb caching Lea Wiemann
2008-07-11  1:10 ` [PATCH 1/3 v9] gitweb: add test suite with Test::WWW::Mechanize::CGI Lea Wiemann
2008-07-11  1:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] add new Git::Repo API Lea Wiemann
2008-07-13 21:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-14  1:04     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-13 23:28   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-14  2:29     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-14  1:40   ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-14 22:19     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-18 16:48       ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-18 17:05         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-18 17:17           ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-18 18:09         ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-18 18:19           ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-18 18:23           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-19 20:54         ` Statictics on Git.pm usage in git commands (was: [PATCH 2/3] add new Git::Repo API) Jakub Narebski
2008-07-19 21:14           ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20  0:16             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-20 21:38               ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20 10:38           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-20 10:49             ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20 12:33               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-20 12:58                 ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20 13:21                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-14 23:41     ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2008-07-15  0:11       ` [PATCH 2/3] add new Git::Repo API Lea Wiemann
2008-07-18 16:54       ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-19  0:03         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-19 19:07         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-20 21:36           ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20 21:50             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-16 18:21   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-16 20:32     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-17 23:49       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-18 13:40         ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-18 15:35           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-18 16:51             ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-11  1:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] gitweb: use new Git::Repo API, and add optional caching Lea Wiemann
2008-07-14 21:23   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-14 23:03     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-14 23:14       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-14 23:56         ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-15  0:52           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-15  1:16             ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-15  1:28               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-15  1:44                 ` J.H.
2008-07-15  1:50                 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-15  2:03                   ` J.H.
2008-07-11  1:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] Git::Repo API and gitweb caching Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-11  9:33 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-11 14:07   ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-11 16:27     ` Abhijit Menon-Sen
2008-07-12 15:08       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-19  5:35 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-18 19:34 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-18 19:39   ` [PATCH 1/3 v10] gitweb: add test suite with Test::WWW::Mechanize::CGI Lea Wiemann
2008-08-19  1:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-19 14:37       ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-18 19:39   ` [PATCH 2/3 v2] add new Perl API: Git::Repo, Git::Commit, Git::Tag, and Git::RepoRoot Lea Wiemann
2008-08-19  1:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-19 15:06       ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-19 13:51     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-18 19:39   ` [PATCH 3/3 v2] gitweb: use new Git::Repo API, and add optional caching Lea Wiemann

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