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From: Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Build configuration to skip ctime for modification test
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:16:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080723191647.GF5283@blimp.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0807231757550.8986@racer>

Johannes Schindelin, Wed, Jul 23, 2008 18:59:02 +0200:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Alex Riesen wrote:
> 
> > Because exactly the file mode (the executable bit) is the reason for
> > checking ctime.
> 
> But ctime is broken on Windows.  Because ctime is supposed to change 
> whenever the _inode_ changes.

It is not that it is broken. We just don't need it, because the st_mode
is not used, and the rest of inode information is not used anyway.

> You have to admit that saying "I ignore the ctime because the executable 
> bit is broken" must leave the reader puzzled.

This is conclusion. I said "file mode" and "file attributes", which
is how reason for ctime update is defined in SUSv3. man 2 stat says:

       The field st_ctime is changed by writing or by setting  inode
       information (i.e., owner, group, link count, mode, etc.).

Not just "inode" but "inode information". Only mode is used, and even
that is ignored on Windows.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-23 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-21 17:35 [PATCH] Fix update-index --refresh for submodules if stat(2) returns st_size 0 Alex Riesen
2008-07-21 18:20 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-21 19:43   ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-21 23:26     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-22  8:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-22 16:49       ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-22  7:17 ` Johannes Sixt
2008-07-22 16:46   ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-22 16:59     ` Johannes Sixt
2008-07-22 17:28   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-22 19:39     ` [PATCH] Build configuration to skip ctime for modification test Alex Riesen
2008-07-22 20:17       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-22 20:31         ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-23  0:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-23 16:46             ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-23 16:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-23 19:16                 ` Alex Riesen [this message]
2008-07-25  2:00                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-25  5:55                     ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-26  0:57                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-26 15:38                         ` [PATCH] Make use of stat.ctime configurable Alex Riesen
2008-07-27 19:46                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-27 19:46                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-28  6:31                             ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-28 16:04                               ` David Brown
2008-07-28 16:09                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-28 21:49                                   ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-29  1:16                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-29  1:23                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29  1:31                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-29  1:41                                         ` David Brown
2008-07-29  2:49                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-29 10:45                                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-29  1:55                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29  2:01                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29 10:49                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-28 16:20                               ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-28 21:47                                 ` [PATCH] Improve the placement of core.trustctime in the documentation Alex Riesen
2008-07-29  6:23                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-24 19:00             ` [PATCH] Do not use ctime if file mode is not used Alex Riesen
2008-07-23 16:00           ` git svn throws locale related error when built from source Anton Mostovoy

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