From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jakub Narebski Subject: Re: [RFC] Git User's Survey 2008 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:49:26 +0200 Message-ID: <200807240149.27371.jnareb@gmail.com> References: <200807230325.04184.jnareb@gmail.com> <169F15EC-1A58-4C2A-84FC-3D14F7B4F1C5@yahoo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Git , Miguel Arroz To: =?utf-8?q?Jean-Fran=C3=A7ois_Veillette?= X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Jul 24 01:50:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLo6T-0002C1-8t for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:50:41 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755518AbYGWXtk convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:49:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755083AbYGWXtj (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:49:39 -0400 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]:44306 "EHLO nf-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754601AbYGWXti (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:49:38 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d3so995949nfc.21 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:49:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=ba0d3oNmPc0TKrUp4grJP6YcyWwnM8MTxJqGfEkHLGY=; b=LahWhHJfc2FxrUf/8HJWZJDSXzkxwx+AO3PKzCIc12AQgK9hGHF2UF8NONmh0hl5JB J9kreLhLfbPBdXVnf17NNAmrbIMLCz0GZZZRXyjgbyN8uDHYe7pZyPmR6RKqX8I8Czum +PVhECGbDRkeADupE7oCOItlRcLfIWWYceiRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=FNxHLI6t4KY8I+bCmWjM4fIlT2y/3s52CrgCKSbpNad9jCTbY+grQU+pc/fZJQQgk+ 0Z6J/ZHAhY2oiYH+RqgkwfwDB9PtJ4iKSjzfxQIBpkuTA8E95xVxAWn28VI5wDJhQAdk Lyg33lAIAwCTp9DjPHjEstF5LddVUuRpAbKi4= Received: by 10.210.71.13 with SMTP id t13mr441253eba.130.1216856975292; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.11? ( [83.8.213.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f4sm21489427nfh.27.2008.07.23.16.49.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:49:33 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 In-Reply-To: <169F15EC-1A58-4C2A-84FC-3D14F7B4F1C5@yahoo.ca> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Dnia =C5=9Broda 23. lipca 2008 17:14, Jean-Fran=C3=A7ois Veillette napi= sa=C5=82: > Le 08-07-22 =C3=A0 21:25, Jakub Narebski a =C3=A9crit : > > > First there is a question about the form of survey. Should we use w= eb > > based survey, as the survey before (http://www.survey.net.nz), send= ing > > emails with link to this survey, or perhaps do email based survey, > > with email Reply-To: address put for this survey alone? Should we = use > > the same web survey service as before (found by Paolo Ciarrocchi fo= r > > first, 2006 survey, and used also for 2007 survey), or is there one > > better (it would better be free, and without limitations on the num= ber > > of responses; in 2006 there were around 117 responses, in 2007 ther= e > > were 683 individual responses). >=20 > Consider > http://www.survs.com > It is still in beta but already years ahead of the proposed solution. > I don't know about the specific of the beta (cost, availability, =20 > etc.) but I had a live presentation of the product and it is an =20 > amazingly great product ! It certainly _looks_ nice, but it lacks one very important feature (or at least I was not able to find it): the ability to download *RAW* data to analyse it off-line using more advanced tools (like for example Perl script to clean-up responses; spreadsheet like Excel or Gnumeric, or some statictics tool like R to analyze data, for example do a correlation between responses to different questions). http://www.survey.net.nz allows to download raw data in modified CSV format (modified as it allows for line continuation). See for example raw data for Git User's Survey 2007 results: http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSurvey2007?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dget&t= arget=3Dsurveydata.csv There is another nice thing that http://www.survey.net.nz is supposed to have (but it doesn't unfortunately work; at least downloading current layout of survey to tweak off-line doesn't/didn't work), namely ability to create survey off-line using some specified text format, and upload it, instead of creating it on-line (which might be much work for large surveys). =20 --=20 Jakub Narebski Poland