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From: "H.Merijn Brand" <h.m.brand@xs4all.nl>
To: "Santi Béjar" <sbejar@gmail.com>
Cc: "Lars Noschinski" <lars-2008-1@usenet.noschinski.de>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Feature suggestion: git-hist
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:29:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080730172928.5b9ed2c8@pc09.procura.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8aa486160807300818m108920a0pe4a5de47de8d838c@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:18:59 +0200, "Santi Béjar" <sbejar@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 15:58, H.Merijn Brand <h.m.brand@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:33:34 +0200, Lars Noschinski
> > <lars-2008-1@usenet.noschinski.de> wrote:
> >
> >> * H.Merijn Brand <h.m.brand@xs4all.nl> [08-07-30 13:38]:
> >>
> >> >     I can ask them what version they have, and I can then check if
> >> >     the complaint was already addressed in an update that was
> >> >     already released. In SCCS this was easy: they tell me the output
> >> >     of the what command, I check if the bug was fixed in a newer
> >> >     version and the answer is present. No such luck in git, as the
> >> >     stamps are (non-sequitive) SHA id's. As we moved to git, we now
> >> >     have to update those id's by hand, as the customers are used to
> >> >     it. (At least we can now use readable date formats)
> >>
> >> Hm, what about "git-describe --contains $SHA_OF_BUGFIX"?
> >
> > If you come from a SCCS environment, the developers are used to see the
> > version of a single file, not of the id of a fix. One of the reasons we
> > moved from SCCS to git, is that we now can commit a group of files as a
> > single commit, and later look at the complete picture.
> >
> > We are not used to working with $SHA's, and IMHO from the end-user pov,
> > a $SHA is less user friendly than a release number or a file version. I
> > can remember a version, but I cannot remember a SHA.
> 
> >
> > The end user only has the application, which is (or at least should be)
> > able to spit out its release version.
> 
> As git itself does:
> 
> $ git version
> git version 1.6.0.rc1.11.g1ce47
> 
> I think it is far better to know the version of the entire project,
> than the version of a single file.

Yes. I agree.
We us tags to `mark' the release, but with the repo's of a project
(still) scattered around, it is far from ideal.

And as to a single file: I mostly know (when I fixed something) in what
file I fixed it, so the first thing I do is to check that file against
the revision that the customer runs.

> > That is all we can go by when we dig back into the history to see where
> > we changed things.
> >
> > One (very) big disadvantage of  SCCS  is that commits are on a per-file
> > basis, and only in a single directory. This drawback still haunts me in
> > git, as my first attempts to convert were successful in a single folder
> > and git cannot merge folders into a single project.
> >
> > Say I now have
> >
> > /work/src/project/.git
> > /work/src/project/module_a/.git
> > /work/src/project/module_b/.git
> > /work/src/project/module_c/.git
> >
> > Which are all converted repos from SCCS, I'd like to merge the three
> > module_# repos into the top level repo.
> 
> You have, basically, two possibilities:
> 
> 1) Add the module_# as submodules:
>   http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-submodule.html
>   http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSubmoduleTutorial
> 2) Add the submodules as subtrees (as gitk and git-gui in git.git)
>   http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/howto/using-merge-subtree.html

Thanks, I'll start reading ...

-- 
H.Merijn Brand          Amsterdam Perl Mongers  http://amsterdam.pm.org/
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-30 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-30 11:38 Feature suggestion: git-hist H.Merijn Brand
2008-07-30 12:03 ` Pieter de Bie
2008-07-30 12:14   ` H.Merijn Brand
2008-07-30 13:33 ` Lars Noschinski
2008-07-30 13:58   ` H.Merijn Brand
2008-07-30 14:55     ` Miklos Vajna
2008-07-30 15:03       ` H.Merijn Brand
2008-07-30 15:23         ` Santi Béjar
2008-07-30 15:58           ` Avery Pennarun
2008-07-30 16:34             ` Lars Noschinski
2008-07-30 15:18     ` Santi Béjar
2008-07-30 15:29       ` H.Merijn Brand [this message]
     [not found]     ` <FA2D570A-B2B1-4994-AA6A-9C0C55E69900@silverinsanity.com>
2008-07-30 16:26       ` Merging submodules (was Re: Feature suggestion: git-hist) H.Merijn Brand

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