From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Shawn O. Pearce" Subject: Re: NYU Open Source Programming Class Releases JavaGit API 0.1.0 Alpha Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:20:07 -0700 Message-ID: <20080805012007.GB32543@spearce.org> References: <5dfc0b810808040948x6cd1f29fhaf2bf85a09cfd404@mail.gmail.com> <20080804175403.GG27666@spearce.org> <20080805011051.GC32184@machine.or.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Johannes Schindelin , James Linder , git@vger.kernel.org To: Petr Baudis X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Aug 05 03:21:20 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KQBEg-0005H5-Ej for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:21:14 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754998AbYHEBUL (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:20:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754358AbYHEBUK (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:20:10 -0400 Received: from george.spearce.org ([209.20.77.23]:36503 "EHLO george.spearce.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751667AbYHEBUI (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:20:08 -0400 Received: by george.spearce.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 87AA538419; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080805011051.GC32184@machine.or.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Petr Baudis wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:36:15AM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > And I absolutely share the puzzlement of Shawn why anybody would try to do > > their own thing in Java, instead of contributing to jgit. > > > > Especially the fact that "JavaGit" seems to repeat the all-to-obvious > > error of Eclipse: to make a platform-independent library that depends on > > platform dependent components. > > [Totally naive question coming with no knowledge of actual size of > current JGit's feature set:] > > Wouldn't it make sense to have an ability to fall back on Git calls for > functionality that is not implemented natively yet? If you then don't > have Git available, you just don't get the functionality. What's the > catch? Someone else asked to do this in JGit before (it was privately off-list to Robin and myself). Both of our responses were that we were not that interested in having such dependencies in the main JGit tree at this time, but that JGit is BSD and nothing would stop them from forking our tree and trying it out. If there really was value there we would have to consider merging it back. Nothing came of it as far as I know. Someone recently ported git-blame into JGit, and it looks like they did a good job, but it was a straight C->Java port. Since JGit is licensed under the BSD and builtin-blame.c is under the GPL we couldn't accept it as-is. That side project produced a lot more results than anything else of late, but the GPL virual clause kicked in and prevented direct inclusion. -- Shawn.