From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" <srb@cuci.nl>
To: Karl Chen <quarl@cs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@gnu.org>,
Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net>,
Git mailing list <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] be paranoid about closed stdin/stdout/stderr
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:04:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080827090423.GA484@cuci.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <quack.20080826T2005.lthzlmz2m4g@roar.cs.berkeley.edu>
Karl Chen wrote:
>Yes, I can work around this issue with sh -c 'git fetch
>0</dev/null', and maybe it shouldn't close(0) in the first place.
>But I don't see the harm in being safe. It's one less potential
>surprise for users. This is the first program I've encountered
>that broke due to stdin being closed, and it took debugging to
>figure out that was the reason.
I understand the reasoning, and there sure is a valid point in here
(principle of least surprise), but there is also the case of hiding
problems.
It's a bit unclear which should prevail here.
The point is that if you actually make git detect and correct
closed descriptors which should have been open, then you are merely
passing the buck to all other programs the user is starting which might
or might not break.
Maybe the breakage of other programs is only in conjunction with
full-moon and FD 0 closed, in that case you make the problems/bugs even
*harder* to find for the user by making git "fix it for you".
--
Sincerely,
Stephen R. van den Berg.
"First, God created idiots. That was just for practice.
Then he created school boards." -- Mark Twain
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-27 9:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-25 8:28 [PATCH] Fix start_command() pipe bug when stdin is closed Karl Chen
2008-08-25 10:44 ` Johannes Sixt
2008-08-25 11:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-25 12:00 ` [PATCH v2] fix start_command() " Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-25 13:12 ` Johannes Sixt
2008-08-25 13:37 ` [PATCH v2 properly indented] " Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-25 16:00 ` Karl Chen
2008-08-26 0:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 6:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 6:33 ` Johannes Sixt
2008-08-26 6:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-26 6:48 ` [PATCH] be paranoid about closed stdin/stdout/stderr Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-26 6:57 ` Johannes Sixt
2008-08-26 7:40 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-08-27 5:01 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-08-27 9:18 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-08-27 12:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-27 15:20 ` [PATCH v4] make git-shell " Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-27 17:22 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-08-27 17:27 ` [PATCH] be " Junio C Hamano
2008-08-28 13:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-28 13:58 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-08-27 18:22 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-08-28 12:21 ` Nick Andrew
2008-08-28 12:52 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-08-26 17:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 18:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-26 22:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 23:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 23:10 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-08-27 3:05 ` Karl Chen
2008-08-27 4:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-27 9:04 ` Stephen R. van den Berg [this message]
2008-08-27 6:35 ` Johannes Sixt
2008-08-27 8:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-08-27 2:04 ` Nick Andrew
2008-08-25 15:56 ` [PATCH] Fix start_command() pipe bug when stdin is closed Karl Chen
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