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From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" <srb@cuci.nl>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] cherry-pick using multiple parents to implement -x
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:10:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080907201038.GB8765@cuci.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vtzcrn9uv.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>

Junio C Hamano wrote:
>"Stephen R. van den Berg" <srb@cuci.nl> writes:
>> The questions now are:
>> - Would there be good reason not to record the backport/forwardport
>>   relationship in the additional parents of a commit?

>In general, I do not think what you did is a good idea.  The _only_ case
>you can do what you did and keep your sanity is if you cherry-picked every
>single commit that matters from one branch to the other.

Wouldn't that be the normal use case for these kind of side-port
references?

>If something is not "parent", you shouldn't be recording it as such.

It depends on what you define to be a parent.  The git repository
doesn't care either way (that's the beauty of the format definition of
the git repository, just as the tree snapshots allow for later more
complicated diff/blame processing history, so do the parent
relationships allow for more complicated parent references which were
not imagined as the repository format was defined).

>Remember, when you are making a commit on top of one or more parents, you
>are making this statement:

> * I have considered all histories leading to these parent commits, and
>   based on that I decided that the tree I am recording as a child of
>   these parents suits the purpose of my branch better than any of them.

That is a statement which depends on the view of the user.  I concur
that up till now, that is what a user says.  But maybe it is possible to
accomodate both the traditional statement and the sideport-statement
without confusing the two.

>This applies to one-parent case as well.

>Imagine you have two histories, forked long time ago, and have side-port
>of one commit:

>If you recorded A' with parents A and X.  Here is what you would get:

>             o---...o---B---A
>            /                \ (wrong)
>        ---o---o---...o---X---A'

>But that is not what you did.  The tree state A' lacks what B did, which
>could be a critical security fix, and you didn't consider all history that
>leads to A when you cherry-picked it to create A'.

>To put it another way, having the parent link from A' to A is a statement
>that A' is a superset of A.  Because A contains B, you are claiming A'
>also contains B, which is not the case in your cherry-picked history.

Which existing git command actually misbehaves because it makes the
above assumption?
-- 
Sincerely,
           Stephen R. van den Berg.

"The future is here, it's just not widely distributed yet." -- William Gibson

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-07 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-07 10:34 [RFC] cherry-pick using multiple parents to implement -x Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-07 17:28 ` Jeff King
2008-09-07 19:56   ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-07 20:04     ` Jeff King
2008-09-07 20:22       ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-08  1:49         ` Jeff King
2008-09-08  6:57           ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-07 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 20:10   ` Stephen R. van den Berg [this message]
2008-09-07 21:16     ` Thomas Rast
2008-09-07 22:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 22:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-08  7:37   ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-08  7:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 23:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-08 11:51   ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-08 13:04     ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-08 13:42       ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-08 14:37         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-08 14:57           ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-08 14:38     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-09-08 14:58       ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-08 15:00         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-09-09  8:51           ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-08 15:04       ` Paolo Bonzini

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