From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" <srb@cuci.nl>
To: Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@gnu.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, and more about porcelain-level metadata
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:49:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080910114940.GA14127@cuci.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080910104424.GH10360@machine.or.cz>
Petr Baudis wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:35:18AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>But that is irrelevant. If you already have the objects, whether to
>follow the origin link does not matter at all.
>I argue that the following the origin link by one step is harmful as it
>violated the internal Git object model and does not have real benefits.
>If you want to have the origin links, do not follow them at all - the
>commit objects themselves are not useful. (Or, optionally, follow them
>fully - that of course can make sense.)
The origin links are rarely followed, not even by one step. They are
only followed if a certain operation requires them (not a lot do).
>> > And why are the notes created by git cherry-pick -x insufficient for that?
>> For example, these notes (or the ones created by "git revert") are
>> *wrong* because they talk about commits instead of changesets (deltas
>> between two commits).
>(BTW, I don't feel strongly enough about the header-freeform distinction
>to argue about it and some of your and others' points are good. But even
>if we have the origin links, I think we should only follow them not at
>all or fully.)
Maybe we have a misunderstanding about what "follow a link" means and
when it is done.
During most normal git operation, the origin links are just read, but
not followed.
The only commands that I expect to follow them are log --graph, gitk, fsck
and blame. I may have missed some corner use-cases, but this should
cover most of it; i.e. most of git ignores them or just makes note of
the hashvalues provided.
--
Sincerely,
Stephen R. van den Berg.
"Am I paying for this abuse or is it extra?"
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2008-09-09 13:22 [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 13:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-09 14:04 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 13:48 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 15:44 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-09 16:38 ` Steven Grimm
2008-09-09 19:43 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 19:59 ` Jeff King
2008-09-09 20:25 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 20:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-09 20:47 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-09-09 20:50 ` Jeff King
2008-09-09 22:35 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-09 23:07 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-10 8:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 0:13 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 1:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-10 5:38 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 21:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-09 21:09 ` Jeff King
2008-09-09 23:36 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 20:54 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-09 23:08 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-09 23:58 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 5:42 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 15:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 23:09 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 6:22 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 8:20 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-11 12:31 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 13:51 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-11 15:32 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 18:00 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-11 19:03 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 19:33 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 19:44 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 20:24 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:05 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-11 20:22 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 0:30 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-09-12 5:39 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:04 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-11 21:46 ` Jeff King
2008-09-11 22:56 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 23:01 ` Jeff King
2008-09-11 23:17 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 23:26 ` Jeff King
2008-09-11 23:36 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 15:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 16:00 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 17:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 18:44 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 21:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-11 22:32 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 22:40 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 12:28 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-09-11 12:39 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 0:03 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-09-12 0:13 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 15:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 16:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-11 16:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 20:16 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 16:53 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-11 19:23 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 19:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 19:55 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:27 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-12 8:50 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 21:01 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-12 8:40 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 8:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 15:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 15:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 15:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 23:15 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 16:23 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-11 23:28 ` Sam Vilain
2008-09-11 23:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-12 2:24 ` Sam Vilain
2008-09-12 5:47 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 6:19 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-09-12 6:56 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 14:58 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-12 15:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-12 15:11 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-12 15:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-12 16:00 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-12 15:54 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 16:19 ` Jeff King
2008-09-12 16:43 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 18:44 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-12 20:56 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-15 12:21 ` Sam Vilain
2008-09-09 23:59 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-09 21:13 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-09 22:56 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 23:05 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-09 23:32 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 9:35 ` [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, and more about porcelain-level metadata Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 10:44 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-10 11:49 ` Stephen R. van den Berg [this message]
2008-09-10 12:30 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-10 13:14 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 14:33 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-09-10 15:15 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 15:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 12:21 ` [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert Theodore Tso
2008-09-10 14:16 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 15:10 ` Jeff King
2008-09-10 21:50 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 21:54 ` Jeff King
2008-09-10 22:34 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 22:55 ` Jeff King
2008-09-10 23:19 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 5:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-11 7:55 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 8:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-11 12:33 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-09-11 2:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-10 16:18 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-10 16:40 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-10 17:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 22:44 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 8:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-23 13:51 ` Recording "partial merges" (was: Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert) Peter Krefting
2008-09-10 20:32 ` [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert Miklos Vajna
2008-09-10 20:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-10 21:06 ` Miklos Vajna
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