From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Stephen R. van den Berg" <srb@cuci.nl>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:53:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200809111853.53065.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809110835070.3384@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Stephen R. van den Berg wrote:
>
>> If you fetch just branches A, B and C, but not D, the origin link from A
>> to D is dangling. Once you have fetched D as well [..]
>
> So I just said we deleted beanch 'D', so there's no way to ever fetch it
> again.
>
> Get it?
>
> The fact is, a big part of git is temporary branches. It's one of the
> *best* features of git. Throw-away stuff. Those throw-away branches are
> often done for initial development, and then the final result is often a
> cleaned-up version. Often using rebase or cherry-picking or any number of
> things.
>
> And this is why "git cherry-pick" DOES NOT PUT THE ORIGINAL SHA1 IN THE
> COMMENT FIELD BY DEFAULT.
>
> (Although you can use "-x" to make it do so for when you actually _want_
> to say "cherry-picked from xyzzy")
And that is why the proposal was to use "-o" option to git-cherry-pick
to add 'origin'/'changeset' header, exactly because git-cherry-pick is
_abused_ to clean up branches and reorder commits; although I think that
"git rebase --interactive" (and patch management interfaces) do replace
using git-cherry-pick for that purpose.
git-revert would add 'origin'/'changeset' header unconditionally,
just like by default it seeds commit message with SHA-1 id of reverted
commit.
> Can you not understand that? The "origin" field is _garbage_. It's garbage
> for all normal cases. The original commit will not ever even EXIST in the
> result, because it has long since been thrown away and will never exist
> anywhere else.
>
> Garbage should be _avoided_, not added.
Hmmm... the difference between having 'origin' in a commit object header,
and having it in commit mesage is like difference between 'Signed-off-by:'
convention and 'author' header. First is the matter of workflow, second
is inherent, required and non-avoidable part of revision information.
On the other hand git-cherry and git-blame would then have rely on
parsing correctly free-form part of a commit object, to take advantage
of 'origin' information: something what 'origin' info is for.
P.S. 'generation' header was not added... just saying... :-)
--
Jakub Narebski
Poland
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-11 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-09 13:22 [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 13:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-09 14:04 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 13:48 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 15:44 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-09 16:38 ` Steven Grimm
2008-09-09 19:43 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 19:59 ` Jeff King
2008-09-09 20:25 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 20:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-09 20:47 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-09-09 20:50 ` Jeff King
2008-09-09 22:35 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-09 23:07 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-10 8:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 0:13 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 1:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-10 5:38 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 21:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-09 21:09 ` Jeff King
2008-09-09 23:36 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 20:54 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-09 23:08 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-09 23:58 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 5:42 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 15:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 23:09 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 6:22 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 8:20 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-11 12:31 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 13:51 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-11 15:32 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 18:00 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-11 19:03 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 19:33 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 19:44 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 20:24 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:05 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-11 20:22 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 0:30 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-09-12 5:39 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:04 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-11 21:46 ` Jeff King
2008-09-11 22:56 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 23:01 ` Jeff King
2008-09-11 23:17 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 23:26 ` Jeff King
2008-09-11 23:36 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 15:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 16:00 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 17:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 18:44 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 21:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-11 22:32 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 22:40 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 12:28 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-09-11 12:39 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 0:03 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-09-12 0:13 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 15:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 16:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-11 16:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 20:16 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 16:53 ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2008-09-11 19:23 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 19:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-11 19:55 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 20:27 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-12 8:50 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 21:01 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-12 8:40 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 8:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 15:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 15:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-10 15:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 23:15 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 16:23 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-11 23:28 ` Sam Vilain
2008-09-11 23:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-12 2:24 ` Sam Vilain
2008-09-12 5:47 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 6:19 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-09-12 6:56 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 14:58 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-12 15:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-12 15:11 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-12 15:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-12 16:00 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-12 15:54 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 16:19 ` Jeff King
2008-09-12 16:43 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-12 18:44 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-12 20:56 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-15 12:21 ` Sam Vilain
2008-09-09 23:59 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-09 21:13 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-09 22:56 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-09 23:05 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-09 23:32 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 9:35 ` [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, and more about porcelain-level metadata Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 10:44 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-10 11:49 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 12:30 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-10 13:14 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 14:33 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-09-10 15:15 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 15:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 12:21 ` [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert Theodore Tso
2008-09-10 14:16 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 15:10 ` Jeff King
2008-09-10 21:50 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 21:54 ` Jeff King
2008-09-10 22:34 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 22:55 ` Jeff King
2008-09-10 23:19 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 5:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-11 7:55 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-11 8:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-11 12:33 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-09-11 2:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-10 16:18 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-10 16:40 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-10 17:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-10 22:44 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-09-10 8:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-09-23 13:51 ` Recording "partial merges" (was: Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert) Peter Krefting
2008-09-10 20:32 ` [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert Miklos Vajna
2008-09-10 20:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-10 21:06 ` Miklos Vajna
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